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Post by fallingfear on Aug 13, 2007 18:14:01 GMT -5
In which time period is ASoUE set.
I had always assumed it was in the modern era, but having just finished the Autobiography of Lemony Snicket, I am now questioning this assumption. The main thing wich led me to question myself was teh photographs in the book, all old, and black and white. If someone has evidence of the time setting I would LOVE to know!
PS. Also where I can purchase printed copies of The Dismal Dinner in The UK.
PPS. The UK release date of Horseradish: Bitter Truths You Can't Avoid.
MANY THANKS/
FallingFear
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Post by Spymaster E on Aug 13, 2007 18:36:02 GMT -5
Less than half of those phtographs are old 30's photographs. Most are modern photographs that are colored black and white. The truck in some of them is also a fairly modern pickup.
ALso, there is an advance computer in Prufrock Prep. There's elevator's and cars, and electric stoves.
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Post by Zavi on Aug 13, 2007 18:52:09 GMT -5
I don't think there really is a set time period. I always thought the very general environment was something Industrial Revolution or Post-Industrialization, but there are select technologies here and there. It's an alternate universe.
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Post by Dante on Aug 14, 2007 8:38:56 GMT -5
In which time period is ASoUE set. I had always assumed it was in the modern era, but having just finished the Autobiography of Lemony Snicket, I am now questioning this assumption. The main thing wich led me to question myself was teh photographs in the book, all old, and black and white. If someone has evidence of the time setting I would LOVE to know! I don't believe it has a firm time period or setting, but is instead constructed to evoke the past in one way or another; thus there are elements from all sorts of time periods. I think the juxtaposition of horse-drawn carriages alongside motorcycles in the first book makes it clear enough that we're not looking for a genuine time period; that and the setting are deliberately fictionalised so as to allow Handler to use whatever elements are most convenient to him. To my knowledge, this was never "printed" as such; it was a freebie that came with Lunchables, and I don't believe it was distributed on its own. You can read it here, though, if you haven't already. Supposedly, September 3rd, along with a rerelease of The Unauthorized Autobiography.
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Post by Spymaster E on Aug 16, 2007 14:54:46 GMT -5
I'd like to know what new material will be the the TUA rerelease.
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Post by Sixteen on Aug 16, 2007 14:56:27 GMT -5
I think it's just a new cover.
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Post by Spymaster E on Aug 16, 2007 14:59:24 GMT -5
Come on. Can't he write a full book that will answer questions?
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Post by Dante on Aug 16, 2007 15:01:11 GMT -5
This is the U.K., not the U.S.; we don't get new material - well, the new art plates in the special and limited edition of TBB, but that was long ago, and some of them have been seen in U.S. products, but I guess I should say we don't get new author material. The U.A. is probably only being rereleased here as it's been out of print for quite some time, and I guess Egmont wants to get the most out of the readers who may only have started reading the series in that time. However, that would technically be a matter for Upcoming Books. Discuss it there or face the sting of the tagliatelle grande. Trust me, I would be absolutely astonished if there was anything new. (And some of us don't think there should be anything new, either.)
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Post by A on Apr 25, 2012 4:53:46 GMT -5
In which time period is ASoUE set. I had always assumed it was in the modern era, but having just finished the Autobiography of Lemony Snicket, I am now questioning this assumption. The main thing wich led me to question myself was teh photographs in the book, all old, and black and white. If someone has evidence of the time setting I would LOVE to know! PS. Also where I can purchase printed copies of The Dismal Dinner in The UK. PPS. The UK release date of Horseradish: Bitter Truths You Can't Avoid. MANY THANKS/ FallingFear The wierdness is that some photos appear to be Victorian, whilst others are 1930s. After re-reading TWW, I found out that the 3rd book was published after the happenings of TAA. A confusing thing is that on page 3 of UA, where LS is reported dead, is that the UA says: WHAT? Also LS was annouced dead after the happenings of TVV, with the proof beingthe note to file on p5 in UA. He [LS] mentions the reporter Geraldine Julienne and the articles she wrote on the Baudelaires.
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Post by Hermes on Apr 25, 2012 8:19:38 GMT -5
The wierdness is that some photos appear to be Victorian, whilst others are 1930s. I think it's fairly clear that the photographs aren't genuine, but have been inserted by the editors to add colour. The photographs of the Prospero, for instance, show it as a modern ship, though the drawings, both in TRR and in TUA itself, make it an old sailing ship. In TUA chapter 1 Lemony says that if he can't find a photograph of himself at the time he was taken, he will use a photograph of another boy of the same age, and I think that sort of thing is going on throughout. I'm not quite sure what you find puzzling here. (Of course this report, being in the Daily Punctilio, needn't be true.) I would take it that the death announcement takes place after several volumes of ASOUE have been published, and hence some time after the events actually happened. (While there are a few passages in the series which suggest Lemony is researching the events as they happen, there are others which refer to the many years since the events took place. It's true that TUA itself implies that at least the first two books were published while the events were still happening, and yet TRR includes a bit about how Klaus was to feel in later life - this can be retconned by saying that this was a private publication distributed through VFD libraries, and that the mass-market edition, with revisions, came later.) Of course, L's death has been announced at other times as well - for instance Beatrice believed him to be dead when she was pregnant with Violet. There's a line in The End which suggests it's something which happens over and over again.
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Post by A on Apr 26, 2012 2:26:51 GMT -5
The wierdness is that some photos appear to be Victorian, whilst others are 1930s. I think it's fairly clear that the photographs aren't genuine, but have been inserted by the editors to add colour. The photographs of the Prospero, for instance, show it as a modern ship, though the drawings, both in TRR and in TUA itself, make it an old sailing ship. In TUA chapter 1 Lemony says that if he can't find a photograph of himself at the time he was taken, he will use a photograph of another boy of the same age, and I think that sort of thing is going on throughout. I'm not quite sure what you find puzzling here. (Of course this report, being in the Daily Punctilio, needn't be true.) I mean Beatrice thought that LS was dead before her marriage. But the below answers my question
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Post by Very Funky Disco on May 2, 2012 1:55:24 GMT -5
I imagine the series to take place in the early 1980s, although I do also like the idea of it taking place in the 1970s.
While the characters are usually drawn as wearing Victorian clothes - in the text, there usually is no description of what the characters are wearing. The few times that the characters outfits (especially with Esme and Carmelita) are described, they definitely are not Victorian outfits.
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Post by Dante on May 2, 2012 2:05:37 GMT -5
I'm not sure Esmé and Carmelita's outfits are anything ordinary fashion could conceive of, but I take the point.
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Post by friendofvfd on May 2, 2012 22:30:31 GMT -5
I've always just thought of the series as steam-punk, and not really belonging to any period.
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Post by Very Funky Disco on May 2, 2012 23:17:02 GMT -5
Even if we do take this to be an alternate universe, though - it's still interesting to figure what year would be on the calendar, in-universe. Because, we know that they do have calendars with years on them.
We know it has to take place sometime after the 1920s - because Klaus mentions that decade in The Reptile Room, as if it was in the past. So the 1930s would be the earliest decade that this could take place in.
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