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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 30, 2005 16:47:15 GMT -5
It really does depend on the person. Otherwise you could call anyone who is not vegan a hypocrite.
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Post by Dante on Jan 30, 2005 16:55:58 GMT -5
It really does depend on the person. Otherwise you could call anyone who is not vegan a hypocrite. No, the definitions are quite specific. A vegetarian doesn't eat meat. A vegan doesn't use anything which has come from an animal. Anyone who claims to be one of those yet defies the definitions is a hypocrite. It really is that simple.
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Post by Charles Vane on Jan 30, 2005 17:16:42 GMT -5
I'm well aware of the definitions. I was saying a persons beliefs would come into play on deciding whether they were hypocritcial about it. But I guess that's not really on topic so I'll leave now.
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Post by RockSunner on Jan 30, 2005 19:42:56 GMT -5
I'm well aware of the definitions. I was saying a persons beliefs would come into play on deciding whether they were hypocritcial about it. But I guess that's not really on topic so I'll leave now. Lemony included the possiblity that the woman who owned the refrigerator was "pretending to be a vegetarian." Esme might do that to be "in." (Yes, I would call that hypocritical... she's pretending something in order to look good to others.)
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Post by deloverly on Apr 24, 2005 12:56:40 GMT -5
Olaf and most of his troupe are not vegetarians (they wanted roast beef for dinner), but Esme might be -- at least for some period of time -- if it was "in". Or if she thought that she was fat . . .
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Post by sarahrama on May 9, 2005 20:52:52 GMT -5
Do you think the fridge from the box was the one at VFD headquarters, with the Verbal Fridge Dialogue message? That would explain why Lemony was so interested in finding it. I have not tracked down the refrigerator in which the Baudelaires found the Verbal Fridge Dialogue, despite stories that it is also in one of the Mortmain Mountain caves, or performing in some of the gloomiest music halls in the city. So are we dealing with the same fridge? I don't remember reading anything like this yet and I've just started Book the Ninth. I came to this section to avoid things I haven't read yet. From which book is this quote?
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Post by Flaneur on May 12, 2005 5:59:10 GMT -5
I have not tracked down the refrigerator in which the Baudelaires found the Verbal Fridge Dialogue, despite stories that it is also in one of the Mortmain Mountain caves, or performing in some of the gloomiest music halls in the city. I don't remember reading anything like this yet and I've just started Book the Ninth. I came to this section to avoid things I haven't read yet. From which book is this quote? It's from The Slippery Slope, book the tenth.
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Post by sarahrama on May 12, 2005 6:42:35 GMT -5
I don't remember reading anything like this yet and I've just started Book the Ninth. I came to this section to avoid things I haven't read yet. From which book is this quote? It's from The Slippery Slope, book the tenth. So..... I guess I shouldn't be here unless I've read ALL the books even though this particular forum is only for TBB-TWW.
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Post by Little Snicket Lad on May 19, 2005 13:36:43 GMT -5
Veggan (vegetarian, our school's nickname for it), involves and requires eating NO flesh meat whatsoever. No being picky, that's just, well, picky.
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Post by Grace on May 22, 2005 11:03:33 GMT -5
But since he didn't think of VFD till TAA It's probably a coincidence. How do you know that? That's when it started getting mysterious, but you don't know for sure.
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Post by Dante on May 22, 2005 11:41:13 GMT -5
How do you know that? That's when it started getting mysterious, but you don't know for sure. For one thing, his original contract was for four books, because he and his agent agreed that they probably wouldn't sell too well. " The first contract was for 4 of them and I remember that I spoke with my agent and we both agreed that they'd probably publish 2 and then say: " We don't know what we were thinking. It must have been the side cars. Of course no one would be interested in these terrible stories."" www.angelfire.com/ga2/LoneWolf/SnickStuff/SnicketInterview1.htmlFrom this, we can infer that Handler will have had a few ideas for how the plot would continue - the Baudelaire arson and Beatrice, to name two (due to comments in TWW and TMM) - but no fully fleshed-out ideas as he really never thought that he'd write any more after the four he was contracted to do. Hence V.F.D. only appeared in the fifth book, and many of the more recent books heavily contradict the past ones. He also said it in more certain terms in another interview, I believe, which I'm having more difficulty tracking down.
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chabo999
Bewildered Beginner
go baudelaires
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Post by chabo999 on Jun 2, 2005 14:21:58 GMT -5
well i think olaf was once a member of V.F.D (read TUA) so maybe it is
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Post by hookhandedgirl on Jun 8, 2005 10:17:52 GMT -5
there's a frige in mine too *also calls lemony*
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