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Post by Dante on Feb 24, 2009 2:54:22 GMT -5
Yes, Beatrice was pregnant when she and Bertrand left the island - it's mentioned at one point that this is why she could never eat the hybrid horseradish apples she helped create, because it would have poisoned her unborn child. Perhaps this is the origin of the Decision Day "biting the apple then spitting it out" ritual for those who choose to leave the island.
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Post by cwm on Feb 24, 2009 13:03:13 GMT -5
It's not explicitly stated they're lethal, so 'poison' might be a bit far.
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Post by Dante on Feb 24, 2009 13:54:08 GMT -5
"Poison" doesn't necessarily signify something that's fatal, either. However, I concede that my words were not chosen carefully. We do not know what the effects of the apples are on unborn children save that they are "bad for" them.
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Post by Mijahu on Feb 24, 2009 17:53:54 GMT -5
Perhaps this is the origin of the Decision Day "biting the apple then spitting it out" ritual for those who choose to leave the island. I had never realized this. What a great theory! It's small, but things like that make aSoUE more magical for me.
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Post by MasterKlaus247 on Feb 24, 2009 19:56:42 GMT -5
For some reason , I knew that...
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Post by Mijahu on Feb 24, 2009 21:56:26 GMT -5
Yeah, a lot of things in this series flew over my head, I guess
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Post by tigerseye on Dec 23, 2009 12:56:24 GMT -5
I must admit, i originally thought that maybe Lemony was in fact Mr Baudelaire, and had changed his identity back to the surname Snicket, rather than keep his name as Baudelaire as that would make his life too dangerous. However, when i re-read the books again, most of what is written about Lemony and Beatrice's relationship rules out the fact that he could be Mr. Baudelaire. And I don't think he would be Violet's father unless he was all of their fathers. The real identitiy of Mr. Baudelaire is never mentioned, and there is so little evidence as to whom he is in the books that i believe his real identity could be Lemony. Who knows, in a Series of Unfortunate Events, anything is possible. Never rule a possibility out.
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Post by Hermes on Dec 23, 2009 13:49:00 GMT -5
Well, we do know Mr Baudelaire's first name (Bertrand). Apart from that, I don't think there's any particular reason for thinking he has a real identity, other than the one he's known by.
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Post by tigerseye on Dec 23, 2009 17:34:48 GMT -5
Good point, i forgot that
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Post by lemonylove on Dec 24, 2009 5:53:10 GMT -5
Hmmm i dont know Betrand might be the Baudelaires birth father or maybe Mr.Snicket had the baby with Beatrice then she dumped him and then she married Betrand or maybe she had an affair with Mr.Snicket ?!? but i dont know
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Post by Sophie-Senpi on Dec 24, 2009 10:27:57 GMT -5
well in The Beatrice Letters the telegram (LS to BB #6) he says: 'dear Mrs Baudelaire' (so we know she is married to Bertrand now) .... 'Rumors have reached me of your pregnancy '( if he was the father, don't you think he would know before rumors reached him?!) ... 'i hope you have a baby girl-- a girl with all your intelligence ,charm, resourcefulness,and pleasant facile features, who will someday spend a few happy hours alone with someone she loves, up in the mountains.... as we did so long ago' that sounds like violet, doesnt it?? anyway, it sounds like he didnt know anything about Beatrice been pregnant until someone told him
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Post by tigerseye on Dec 24, 2009 16:19:45 GMT -5
yess it does sound like Violet, -Up the mountains- this was where she shared her moment with Quigley x
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Post by Tiago James Squalor on Dec 24, 2009 23:08:10 GMT -5
I don't believe Violet could be Lemony's child. I have the impression that Violet got her inventing skills from her father, Bertrand, while Klaus got Beatrice's book smarts. Or at least that's how I see things. ^^
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Post by Emma “Emmz” Squalor on Dec 25, 2009 9:12:23 GMT -5
I follow the idea of Lemony being Violet's birthfather when it comes to writing fanfic, but as far as it existing in canon it's difficult to tell. I'd like to think of it as being a strong possibility, however.
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Post by Christmas Chief on Dec 25, 2009 12:53:45 GMT -5
Doesn't it mention the Baudelaire parents (Beatrice and Bertrand) being falicitors on the island? And in Chapter Fourteen, it says "If it is a girl, we will name her Violet, if it is a boy we will name him Lemony." Since Lemony wasn't on the island at that time, I'm assuming, and Beatrice and Bertrand had to have been there for at least a year, I think it's unlikely Lemony is Violet's father. The possibility's there, but I find it rather minimal in compairison to the other evidence.
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