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Post by Charles Vane on Apr 20, 2015 19:41:40 GMT -5
As for Best Pairing, I think the reason given for not changing it last year, that we already had a massive number of pairings and didn't want to expand the category further, was a good one. In addition, I think a group is a radically different kind of thing from a pairing, and changing this would take away a classic award. A pairing isn't just a group with two members; it's two people who are connected in a distinctive way. I feel that voting for groups would work differently from voting for pairings, and would be more polarising, as more people would get to vote for groups that they are part of. i dont think a group is that different from a pairing, literally no one at this forum is dating each other rn besides anka and m, so you're either voting for two people whose dynamic you like or three people whose dynamic you like. also, heres an idea, instead of accepting any pairing people suggest out of their ass, why don't we have some way to cull those suggestions too. i mean lets not pretend some group ideas arent valid just bc theres more than two while im pretty sure some of the couple ideas every year are just people listing whatever they want. like im almost positive charlie suggested a bunch of pairings people had never thought of with people that maybe never even interacted, like thats weird ships week not best pairing noms but its allowed just bc of the number of people. suggesting no more than two noms could work, but i'd also offer as a suggestion just not nominating more than two groupings that you're actually in. so you can include yourself in your nominations twice then more combos without yourself in them. or maybe letting people decide the top few choices that theyre in. i mean, like if im nominated in 7 groupings then i choose the top 2 or 3 or something. that way groupings that arent as popular or that someone isnt comfortable with aren't in.
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Post by Charles Vane on Apr 20, 2015 19:43:19 GMT -5
but seriously charlie, dont ever change, i love you and the way you ship everyone/everyone else regardless of preference, interest or logic.
(p.s., panarlie 2015 best pairing.)
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Post by soufflé on Apr 20, 2015 21:42:02 GMT -5
#stillinhighschoolgang #teamteamwolf #wfarftfamt #justsomesuggestions
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Apr 21, 2015 1:20:09 GMT -5
or maybe letting people decide the top few choices that theyre in. i mean, like if im nominated in 7 groupings then i choose the top 2 or 3 or something. that way groupings that arent as popular or that someone isnt comfortable with aren't in. I kind of want to give people a chance who maybe aren't there at the end of the nomination time, so that wouldn't work then. But also other idea: Some people are worried that most people will just vote for groups with themselves. Maybe everyone could have two votes, and only the second one can be for a group with themselves. Like, if you want to vote for a group with yourself, you have to vote for a group without yourself first. The problem about that would be that we would need a PM vote, similar to the member of the year voting.
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Post by Charles Vane on Apr 21, 2015 2:25:41 GMT -5
i dont get the first thing you said.
second, couldnt it work the same way as last year? like everyone does noms then theres a poll where you vote for a few to narrow it down? dont think having noms with more than 2 would change it much.
also, like if youre having to do lots of extra work, could someone help you with the polls or whatever
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Apr 21, 2015 2:49:29 GMT -5
The problem is you can't put more than 30 things in a poll, and even with just pairings it was twenty-something last year, so we might have to find a way to make it less before we have any polls at all.
The first thing I said means that people maybe can't choose between their nominations if they aren't there for a few days.
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Post by Charles Vane on Apr 21, 2015 3:51:47 GMT -5
ohhhhh, well if people know beforehand they would still have notice. maybe? idk, it was just a thought that could maybe help and also, ill be honest here, something id be super on board with bc i hate always getting paired with terry. like it makes me uncomfortable and ive made that no secret but bc someone writes it down its ~official or whatever. i just think it makes sense to take people's feelings into consideration for a category like this.
idk its like if hermes was paired with tryina, i know we dont really know each other but at the very least it could be awk to be a mature adult paired with a seven year old.
so like, if a person could veto choices involving them for this category, it would cut down the noms and i think is reasonable.
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Apr 21, 2015 3:53:55 GMT -5
That's a good though. I think maybe people should generally be allowed to not accept the nominations in all the categories. I don't know where that should happen, but a right to do that would be good.
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Post by Charles Vane on Apr 21, 2015 4:06:09 GMT -5
Well like i can see people being offended by most notorious in general, but i almost think thats the point? or that its more subjective? but pairing people together who think they have no business being paired together is different? just bc you inhabit the same forum as someone doesnt give ppl the right to ship you with whoever, but if ppl think you're notorious, dante, funniest, whatever thats just an opinion based on your behavior.
but either way, yeah, if someone doesn't want to be recognized for whatever reason in any or all categories i'd be fine with that too.
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Apr 21, 2015 5:40:11 GMT -5
The definition in the nomination thread of best pairing actually says that it can also be a pairing of rivals or something like that, so it has nothing to do with shipping.
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Post by Hermes on Apr 21, 2015 8:12:51 GMT -5
also, heres an idea, instead of accepting any pairing people suggest out of their ass, why don't we have some way to cull those suggestions too. i mean lets not pretend some group ideas arent valid just bc theres more than two while im pretty sure some of the couple ideas every year are just people listing whatever they want. like im almost positive charlie suggested a bunch of pairings people had never thought of with people that maybe never even interacted, like thats weird ships week not best pairing noms but its allowed just bc of the number of people. That's the point. A pairing doesn't have to be a pair who actually hang out together, it's just two people whose names go together in an interesting way. Last year I suggested Betsy and Anka for best pairing because of the way they keep winning Most Compassionate, and you suggested Kyle and the bird. Those seem to me valid candidates for Best Pairing. (Actually there might be a problem with the bird if it's not a member of 667, but that could probably be got round.) But Best Group seems to be meant for groups of friends - at least, that's how you defended it last year. It's not the same sort of thing.
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Post by bandit on Apr 21, 2015 8:51:45 GMT -5
I don't think we should be nominating people because their names sound neat together.
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Post by penne on Apr 21, 2015 9:07:55 GMT -5
To be honest, I don't think that making it a Best Group award will result in more nominations. 667 is less active now than it ever was. And I feel like with the pairings, people just wanted to nominate salsa, so they said the first two people that came to mind and all the justification behind it was "ooh, never thought of that pairing before!" A Best Group category could possibly change that, since people will need some sort of logic to create a "group" that isn't just random members. But if you want to make sure that'll happen, making it so people have to say their justification behind the nominations could be a good idea. For example, Sophie could nominate me, Bee, herself, Mr M, Charlie, and Bandit and use her idea of a "still in high school club" as a justification.
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Post by soufflé on Apr 21, 2015 9:08:03 GMT -5
most desperate for a darkie I'm serious that's a senior superlative at my school Could it be added to the poll
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Post by Hermes on Apr 21, 2015 9:30:54 GMT -5
I don't think we should be nominating people because their names sound neat together. No one said that. I said 'because their names go together in an interesting way'. Do you think it should only be specific groups of friends, so that the nomination for Betsy and Anka would not be justified? Or the nomination for Dante and Emma as outstanding moderators?
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