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Post by Hermes on Apr 21, 2015 10:02:04 GMT -5
Apologies for double post, but this is a different theme: I have a new suggestion for the award for the person most devoted to Lemony Snicket: Best Volunteer. What do people think?
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Post by B. on Apr 21, 2015 10:35:03 GMT -5
667ers and Make a bird for #bestartist2k15
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Post by Charles Vane on Apr 21, 2015 11:38:41 GMT -5
also, heres an idea, instead of accepting any pairing people suggest out of their ass, why don't we have some way to cull those suggestions too. i mean lets not pretend some group ideas arent valid just bc theres more than two while im pretty sure some of the couple ideas every year are just people listing whatever they want. like im almost positive charlie suggested a bunch of pairings people had never thought of with people that maybe never even interacted, like thats weird ships week not best pairing noms but its allowed just bc of the number of people. That's the point. A pairing doesn't have to be a pair who actually hang out together, it's just two people whose names go together in an interesting way. Last year I suggested Betsy and Anka for best pairing because of the way they keep winning Most Compassionate, and you suggested Kyle and the bird. Those seem to me valid candidates for Best Pairing. (Actually there might be a problem with the bird if it's not a member of 667, but that could probably be got round.) But Best Group seems to be meant for groups of friends - at least, that's how you defended it last year. It's not the same sort of thing. thats just so arbitrary bc if emma was still around you could have easily nominated li, anka and her for best pairing bc they are always seen as the most compassionate. this category still works with more than two people!
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Post by Charles Vane on Apr 21, 2015 11:41:26 GMT -5
and again, say we actually had a triad or foursome on 667, if they were in a committed relationship i'd say they'd have a right to be pissed if they couldnt be nominated or nominate themselves for this award.
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Post by penne on Apr 21, 2015 12:00:55 GMT -5
I don't think we should be nominating people because their names sound neat together. No one said that. I said 'because their names go together in an interesting way'. Do you think it should only be specific groups of friends, so that the nomination for Betsy and Anka would not be justified? Or the nomination for Dante and Emma as outstanding moderators? I don't think that "Best Group" necessarily rules out duos (correct me if I'm wrong)- those seem like perfectly fine justifications.
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Post by BSam on Apr 21, 2015 12:09:42 GMT -5
Best Crew
or they can be any size from 1 to 100 but you have to give each nomination an awesome crew name like "hangouts crew" or "wfarftfamft crew"
night crew best crew music crew best crew
edit" i shouldn't post at 3am
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Post by Hermes on Apr 21, 2015 12:18:29 GMT -5
Well, actually I think the English word 'group' does not normally include duos, but that wasn't my point. Bandit said that people should not be nominated because their names sounded good together. That sounds as if he thinks the category should only be for groups of friends. If that were the case, most of the nominations made in previous years would not be acceptable. So I was asking if he really thinks this.
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Post by bandit on Apr 21, 2015 12:36:54 GMT -5
The way you're saying it, I thought you meant nominations so inane as to be justified with "Teleram and Terry are an alliteration" or something would be perfectly fine. Of course I don't have a problem with people being nominated for connections beyond friendship.
Also, I didn't think any of us wanted Best Group to exclude pairings.
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Apr 21, 2015 12:46:25 GMT -5
I'm totally confused with this entire category now. could somebody explain what is happening?
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Post by Charles Vane on Apr 21, 2015 12:54:41 GMT -5
Well, actually I think the English word 'group' does not normally include duos, but that wasn't my point. Bandit said that people should not be nominated because their names sounded good together. That sounds as if he thinks the category should only be for groups of friends. If that were the case, most of the nominations made in previous years would not be acceptable. So I was asking if he really thinks this. ive asked twice what would you think if more than two people from 667 were in a relationship and wanted to be included for this award.
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Post by Hermes on Apr 21, 2015 13:01:36 GMT -5
The proposal is to change 'Best Pairing' to 'Best Group', so as to allow groups of more than two. That is all.
No one wants to rule out groups of two. However, I think the word 'group' generally doesn't suggest groups of two. If I were to say 'there's a group of people sitting over on the other side of the room', and it turned out there were only two of them, that would sound weird. New members who weren't here for this debate, hearing there is an award for 'best group', would not think of nominating groups of two.
I also think the word 'group' suggests groups of friends, rather than just sets of people who have something in common. (Of course, 'crew' and 'posse' suggest this much more strongly.) When Pandora first proposed the award last year, she explicitly said it was for groups of friends.
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Apr 21, 2015 13:06:27 GMT -5
is anka's 'each pair of people of can only be nominated once in the groups' rule still happening? because thats the only problem i have with any of this
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Post by B. on Apr 21, 2015 13:15:25 GMT -5
I think everyone has the mental capacity here to understand that group means two or more in this case no matter what the hell it normally means in the english language.
And yeah, I think it should be no repeat nominations again. It's a lot of work for Anka to read through pages and pages of nominations/conversations, I'm sure she has other priorities and puts a lot of work and her own time into organising this without having to read tons of drivel.
Edit: Oh wait I think I misunderstood what MisterM said above at first reading. Regardless, the above still stands imo
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Post by Kit's tits kick ticks on Apr 21, 2015 13:29:19 GMT -5
is anka's 'each pair of people of can only be nominated once in the groups' rule still happening? because thats the only problem i have with any of this I never said that. I only said groups which are included in other groups might be unnominated if there are too many nominations for a poll. But that turned out to have some problems, so we are trying to find a better way to make it not too many nominations and at the same time keep it fair for everyone by letting everyone be nominated in about the same amount of groups. There was the idea to either limit the number of groups a person can be nominated in, or the number of groups each person can nominate.
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Post by Hermes on Apr 21, 2015 13:30:49 GMT -5
Well, actually I think the English word 'group' does not normally include duos, but that wasn't my point. Bandit said that people should not be nominated because their names sounded good together. That sounds as if he thinks the category should only be for groups of friends. If that were the case, most of the nominations made in previous years would not be acceptable. So I was asking if he really thinks this. ive asked twice what would you think if more than two people from 667 were in a relationship and wanted to be included for this award. I think that should be allowed.
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