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Post by ellingtonf on Oct 5, 2015 7:15:41 GMT -5
First of all - hi everyone, my first post here after being a long-time reader of the forums.
Are we expecting Handler to write more between ATWQ and ASoUE? It was certainly left wide open. What would people like to see? Ellington seems like far too good a character for us never to hear about again, although I find it odd that she wasn't even mentioned in passing in ASoUE?
Anyway, I'd be interested to see where you see the future of the series going - or if there is a future at all.
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Post by Tryina Denouement on Oct 5, 2015 9:11:43 GMT -5
Well, I wish he would write something.
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Post by Dante on Oct 5, 2015 10:29:53 GMT -5
A reminder that the book has not been out for a week yet (...officially). Your opening post was very discreet, but I've taken the liberty of adding a spoiler warning to the title, as this discussion will inevitably include spoilers.
As for me, I think nothing is certain. Handler didn't leave the conclusion of ATWQ as open as he did ASoUE, for which he effectively ruled out any continuations, but if I'm honest I think the same is probably true of ATWQ. Handler writes for a genre that he's interested in and fits the story into the timeline wherever it seems most convenient - rather than regarding patching up the timeline as being the most important thing. I wouldn't like to place any bets.
As far as Ellington not being mentioned in ASoUE is concerned, it seems likely that she was eclipsed in relevance by Beatrice.
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Post by ellingtonf on Oct 5, 2015 15:27:10 GMT -5
It does seem like Handler loves the universe and I do feel like he left things open enough to fit another series in. But I'm not sure how it would work exactly. To be honest I don't mind if the timelines don't match up perfectly.
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Post by Hermes on Oct 5, 2015 15:59:16 GMT -5
As I've said before, I think he may write another series in the same universe, but not closely linked, and not designed to answer our questions.
I have an idea for linking Ellington with ASOUE, which I hope to use in fanfic some time.
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Post by lorelai on Oct 5, 2015 20:39:09 GMT -5
As I've said before, I think he may write another series in the same universe, but not closely linked, and not designed to answer our questions. I have an idea for linking Ellington with ASOUE, which I hope to use in fanfic some time. Ooo, I have an idea too. It'll be interesting to see if we have the same one if either of us use them.
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Post by E.F. on Oct 7, 2015 14:53:03 GMT -5
I think Hermes is right, in that Handler will write another series, though not one closely related to ATWQ--there is still so much of the universe that has yet to be explored! I would love to see something more about the origins of the V.F.D schism (as I'm sure we all would), but my hopes aren't high given that it would answer too many questions. Really, though, he could go anywhere with it and I'd be happy.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Oct 17, 2015 21:36:42 GMT -5
There's this quote from an article about movie prequels I've come across--but it applies to prequels in general--that raises a good point: I think it kinda explains why ATWQ is better than normal prequels usually are, and maybe why DH chose not to really market it as an "ASoUE prequel." I'm posting this thought in this thread since I don't know where else, but this would also make for an argument that any more Snicket stories set in the A-verse would also distance themselves quite a bit from both ASoUE and ATWQ.
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Post by Dante on Oct 18, 2015 14:11:37 GMT -5
I think that's somewhat misreading the interest in prequels. To me, the essence of the prequel is tragedy, and as in tragedies, the ending is preordained. Much though ATWQ may be deliberately distanced from ASoUE, there are elements of this in the story nonetheless.
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Post by meinhard1 on Oct 20, 2015 23:21:34 GMT -5
Ellington, with her love of coffee and jazz and her personal inner complexity, certainly is interesting for us, and for young Mr. Snicket. While Snicket is incredibly bright, I believe in Ellington he faces what he does not yet understand. She embodies a world of things unfamiliar to Snicket. I think, true to the end, Ellington will remain a bit of a mystery. She's, for us, an unfinished story. Like the book in the hotel room. With her we may never know "what happens next."
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Post by Dante on Oct 21, 2015 2:24:14 GMT -5
I would tend to agree. It's quite curious, really; by her own admission, up until about six months ago Ellington was growing up in a single-parent household in a small town, but she's characterised as a very worldly individual - living independently without a guardian, operating under complex shades-of-grey morality that challenge Snicket's simple assumptions, imitating city habits like drinking coffee and listening to jazz music. She's a hint towards the complexities and challenges of adult life; she's living it where Snicket is only just learning to. Hence, perhaps, the question-mark eyebrows.
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Post by lorelai on Oct 23, 2015 15:42:25 GMT -5
I think we all know, or have known, an Ellington; the person that seems glamorously adult, yet familiar enough to be normal in their mystery. Generally, these people aren't fixtures of our lives, but they tend to leave a lasting impression.
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Post by M David Steel on Nov 15, 2015 5:48:19 GMT -5
i'd like to see some of the Lemony/Beatrice story
It wouldn't pick straight off from ATWQ O'course it would be more like 5 years later.
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