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Post by Teleram on Sept 15, 2016 23:02:47 GMT -5
After spending some time on The Snicket Sleuth, I decided to search up All the Wrong Questions on tumblr, just for kicks. There were some intriguing discussion going on, but mostly I was shocked by the fair amount of really wierd, explicit fanart for the Moxie/Ellington slash pairing. At first I thought it was totally hilarious (I was particularly tickled by one post comparing the two to Megatron and Starscream from Transformers) but then I realized it was actually very creepy and messed up, considering THE TWO ARE LITERAL UNDERAGE TEENAGERS WHAT THE F*CK.
does anyone else find this type of Snicket fanart (or most fanart, for that matter) that creates this really extensive, strange, fantasy world by the fanart creators about the relationships of certain (underage) fictional characters to be totally inexplicable?
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Post by Reba on Sept 15, 2016 23:31:57 GMT -5
it's easily explicable and it's called rule 34, pal
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Post by Teleram on Sept 16, 2016 1:38:33 GMT -5
i was actually asking about the specific way some fans create their own fictional universes (not necessarily headcanon, but something to that effect) for fictional characters and not the fanart itself, but i wouldn't have expected someone as scatterbrained and smug as you, bandit, to understand that.
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Post by Hermes on Sept 16, 2016 8:25:54 GMT -5
Ha! Has Moxie/Ellington been discussed here at all? I did have an idea for a story, featuring them later in life - it would begin with Sunny going to consult a detective agency in the hope of finding her siblings, and it would turn out to be run by Moxie and Ellington, who had consoled one another after Lemony deserted them both. The plot of ?4 makes that rather harder to get to work, though. Anyway I was thinking about later life rather than the time of the books.
Yes, the way people invest so much energy in pairings, often with no basis in canon, is rather odd when you come to think of it.
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Post by Reba on Sept 16, 2016 8:49:17 GMT -5
i was actually asking about the specific way some fans create their own fictional universes (not necessarily headcanon, but something to that effect) for fictional characters and not the fanart itself, but i wouldn't have expected someone as scatterbrained and smug as you, bandit, to understand that. guess i don't understand, because my answer would still be the same, plus you said "fanart" in your original question. does anyone else find this type of fanart that [fulfills someone's fantasy] to be totally inexplicable? sexualization/romanticization of everything.
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Post by Teleram on Sept 16, 2016 18:45:00 GMT -5
i partially rescind my question - it's a bit hard to describe what i'm exactly talking about without providing specific examples, so here you go. (somewhat, sorta NSFW)
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Sept 17, 2016 15:57:20 GMT -5
It's the internet, just don't go lookin it up if ya don't like it. I find non-canon shipping in general really weird.
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Post by Tryina Denouement on Sept 18, 2016 12:43:00 GMT -5
I kind of expected everything major I like to have porn for it, so I have developed beyond caring (as long as it doesn't involve pedo or bestiality I'm ok with it)
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Sept 18, 2016 21:48:33 GMT -5
Yeah this might have been shocking to me a decade ago, but it's the internet. You get desensitized and learn to ignore it.
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Post by Dante on Sept 19, 2016 7:34:49 GMT -5
I don't know that Teleram's original question had particularly to do with the explicit nature of the content in question, though; it's more to do with the depth and source of ideas which seem to have very little to do with canon (in which Moxie and Ellington interact in maybe one scene, and it's not clear that Ellington really knows that Moxie exists). In short, how do people come up with this stuff, and then continue to let it stew in their mind until it's produced a rich tapestry of work that has even less to do with canon than it originally did? ...I suppose my answer to that question would be that a lot of fanwork actually has very little to do with the original. Perhaps instead it's more that the creator of the work in question was looking for something, or was inspired by something, and mistook what they found as having more to do with canon than it actually does.
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Sept 24, 2016 23:19:12 GMT -5
A lot of fanwork, especially that which is sexual in nature, is wish fulfillment. Whether the scene is plausible or whether or not they interacted in canon is irrelevant; what matters is the artist pictured it happening in their head.
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Post by Teleram on Sept 25, 2016 0:48:09 GMT -5
To clarify some of my earlier statements, I am used to the concept of Rule 34, it's just that I always thought ATWQ was a relatively obscure series (at least compared to ASOUE) and I was surprised there would be any examples for it at all- particularly ones involving one of the series's least likely pairings.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Sept 25, 2016 17:48:45 GMT -5
lol I'm not sure what you want from us. second your surprise? congratulate you? check some of that sweet, possibly disturbing ATWQ rule 34 art?
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Post by Teleram on Sept 25, 2016 18:05:03 GMT -5
I don't want anything from you guys regarding my surprise, i just wanted to clarify some stuff I said earlier. But thank you for the condescending post, Terry.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Sept 25, 2016 19:51:04 GMT -5
I just want to make sure you get the response you desire and rightfully deserve
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