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Post by ryantrimble457 on Nov 28, 2016 18:03:36 GMT -5
Okay so cuz I am BORED AT WORK (aka not doing a great job of you know actually working)
What are some things you specifically hope to see in the series?
FOR ME, I HELLA wanna see some form of the "Letters to the Editor." I don't know how, or why, or to what degree...but I wanna see them.
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Post by Invisible on Nov 28, 2016 18:11:56 GMT -5
A hint at Sir and Charles' relationship. I'm going to be very upset if there isn't any (at least!!) chemistry between them.
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Post by Mr. Dent on Nov 28, 2016 19:17:35 GMT -5
A hint at Sir and Charles' relationship. I'm going to be very upset if there isn't any (at least!!) chemistry between them. Seconded. Also, I'm very much hoping they portray VFD as being a toxic organization- I'm hoping that they don't dumb down the moral mire that the children nearly sink into. Oh, and they simply must integrate Beatrice. I consider Lemony and Beatrice's relationship integral, so they simply can't just gloss over it like the movie did. Some more henchmen stuff would be nice, too! Love the henchmen. Usman Ally has almost exclusively referred to his character as Fernald, and not The Hook Handed Man, so maybe some backstory hints?
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Nov 28, 2016 19:34:47 GMT -5
Oh, and they simply must integrate Beatrice. I consider Lemony and Beatrice's relationship integral, so they simply can't just gloss over it like the movie did. YES YES YES Dedications maybe? SOMETHING. They gotta. Can you imagine an eventual like found-footage style TUA as a "special ep"?
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Post by mortinson51 on Nov 28, 2016 20:42:25 GMT -5
For me what I always love is when Lemony goes off on a tangent about a story from his life I would love to see sequences with Lemony's back story. For me Beatrice is so important and would love to have him expressing his love for her to the audience as the episode opens.
I think the side characters are always very interesting and would love for them to be fleshed out as well. The two white faced woman for example having a sister. It would be nice to have more hints about what happened to them.
I think I'm also most intrigued with the stuff they will add hopfully making the world feel bigger while not changing the stories core. Hopefully they find a good balance
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Post by Gregor Anwhistle on Nov 28, 2016 21:36:35 GMT -5
I'd like to see some inclusion of the Duchess of Winnipeg. "R" is one of those off screen characters in the series that always intrigued me, so seeing her pop up would be cool. I suppose I could settle for just a name drop, but an actual appearance would make me happy.
One of the series highlights for me was the unique library in each book. Sadly the movie skipped over these -- instead, we got Klaus's "book flashbacks." The Netflix trailer seems to imply we'll be seeing Justice Strauss's legal library put to use as well as Josephine's grammar library. Here's hoping they do justice to the libraries of Monty and Lucky Smells.
I agree with everyone who mentioned Beatrice tying into the show.
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Post by Mr. Dent on Nov 28, 2016 22:55:11 GMT -5
Oh, and they simply must integrate Beatrice. I consider Lemony and Beatrice's relationship integral, so they simply can't just gloss over it like the movie did. YES YES YES Dedications maybe? SOMETHING. They gotta. Can you imagine an eventual like found-footage style TUA as a "special ep"? To be honest, I'd rather they didn't do TUA straight up. I can't see how they'd fit that into the narrative in a way that feels right. I liked what they did with the Sebald Code, and would like to see more of that- You know, just integrated into the plot. Although, that was a particularly easy bit to include, since it was a retcon to begin with. Also, a thousand times yes to the inclusion of R.
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Post by mortinson51 on Nov 29, 2016 0:55:00 GMT -5
I agree with Mr. Dent I would like to see TUA added as things happen in the books instead of retroactively changing the story line I would like to have everything pop up when It's supposed to happen. The books felt like there was a larger world but only focused on the Children. TUA gave some insight into that larger world I really want to see some of that. That way it's still fresh and there are some mysteries that the readers don't know the answer too.
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Nov 29, 2016 1:06:31 GMT -5
Totally totally. As long as they treat it as canon and work it in, I'm down!
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Post by Mr. Dent on Nov 29, 2016 1:22:14 GMT -5
I want to see Lady Gaga as Esme, but that's looking very unlikely.
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Post by Dante on Nov 29, 2016 3:45:06 GMT -5
I agree on integrating the U.A. - and for that matter, other supplementary material like the Rare Edition notes and TBL, but chiefly the U.A. The U.A. does a lot of work to fit the earlier books into the subsequent, more complex developments in canon, so you should be able to read a lot of that back into an adaptation of the early books - as it looks like they've done. Conversely, the BBRE has a lot of dropped plotlines (Handler's described it, I think, as "groundwork," but realistically a lot of what the BBRE implies is never followed up), but there are still a few little things you can pick up on; the trailer suggests that Violet's marking the stones she's skipping, for instance, which you can use as a visual device to show that the stone she picks up on her return to Briny Beach is one of the same ones she'd held on the beach in TBB. There are also the suggestions that the Baudelaires were being spied on, and if the show is going for a survivor-of-the-fire route they'll want to pay attention to fountains. So there's potential.
TBL is important in bridging the gap betwen Lemony as narrator and Lemony as important player in the backstory, and that's especially important in the context of the TV show where he's a magical Greek chorus who doesn't exist on the same level of reality as the other characters, which undermines his direct role in the story to the point of collapse. I am concerned about the status of Lemony as a literal character, but it's also possible to use his ambiguous relationship with the fourth wall to create greater impact in certain scenes. Think of the potential for the scene in TPP Chapter Ten with the taxi driver who is almost certainly Snicket; if you began that scene with Snicket apparently acting in his usual narratorial role only to have him then turn around and interact with the Baudelaires directly, I think that would be extremely powerful. Looking at TBL from the other side, I really hope we get Young Beatrice flashforwards throughout the final season, or at least in The End.
Also, I say this whenever there's new remotely canon material, but they should really do something with Jacques, who is outrageously underutilised compared to both his siblings. At least they'll almost certainly be filming flashback scenes with him for TSS, but I think there would also be a powerful effect on viewers if we were to see him about his investigations in scenes pre-TVV, which would make it all the more shocking when he then appears in the main story and meets his fate there. It is a little bit odd that they've invented Jacquelyn when there are characters like Jacques, Kit, and R. going spare, but maybe she will also be murdered later and we will be very surprised.
Edit: I should've said this as well, but I think everyone else's suggestions are very good as well. Reworking the Kind Editor letters into elaborate "Next Time" previews, Sir and Charles (admittedly I'm sure they won't miss this), Beatrice, Snicket anecdotes, moral ambiguity, etc. All the things people enjoyed from the books.
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Post by colette on Nov 29, 2016 6:33:23 GMT -5
I want to see carnival freaks and Madam Lulu.
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Post by larina on Nov 29, 2016 7:24:28 GMT -5
Pretty much everything listed above would be amazing to see if the showrunners do include it. (Especially loved the idea of Snicket suddenly interacting with the Baudelaires in PP, that would be absolutely chilling). Let's hope the characters and the world get a bit more fleshed out with the additional screentime they'll get.
Also, having The Gothic Archies songs in the episode credits would be great in my opinion.
Another thing I hope for is that the show is as postmodern as the books. It would be interesting to see DH take advantage of the TV show format just like how he originally played around with the format of the books (Ever ever ever..., the black pages in EE, etc.) There's potential for some memorable moments right there.
Another thing I hope for is that we'll have some sort of a scene where the Baudelaire siblings go through a genuine emotional breakdown. Maybe when they reach their lowest point in the story (The Marvelous Marriage and Sunny being held captive in BB, or Monty's death in RR), all the silliness gets dropped and we get to see the weight of the situation. After that, the siblings sort of collect themselves and begin to figure their way out of the situation. I feel like something like that would make the casual audience pretty attached to the protagonists. It mostly depends on how good the actors are though.
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Post by ryantrimble457 on Nov 29, 2016 7:53:57 GMT -5
UGH "Next time on..." is a beautiful way to do the letters.
Also Gaga as Esmé has been my backup headcanon for years. When I first read them, she was always Gwen Stefani in my head.
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Post by Dante on Nov 29, 2016 11:44:14 GMT -5
I want to see carnival freaks and Madam Lulu. It looks very much like we'll be getting a second series which will include TCC, so you, at least, should be able to see your wish granted.
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