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Post by M David Steel on Jan 1, 2017 8:46:35 GMT -5
If by some stretch, it was possible for a person to choose, prior to their birth, their gender (could either be male or female) I know I would have chosen to be female. I can elaborate if you need me to.
How do you feel yourselfs with that?
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Post by Cafe SalMONAlla on Jan 1, 2017 8:51:41 GMT -5
I assume you mean assigned gender.
I would probably have chosen male if that were the case, at least if I weren't going into the decision-making process blind, which I guess I would have been if I hadn't been born at the time.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Jan 1, 2017 10:08:18 GMT -5
If I somehow would've known about the society I'd be born into, prior to my birth, I still would've chosen male.
But also because I wouldn't want to give birth; that whole ordeal sounds painful af.
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Post by M David Steel on Jan 1, 2017 11:57:18 GMT -5
But one has a lot of fun as a girl and many things are easier done because of how people think. Think of a girl who sees a guy and wants to talk to him. Now a man who wants to talk to a girl/woman has it harder. A girl might worry about a man who approaches her, but a woman my same age is fine? there are plenty of lesbians around so it's dumb to assume that a woman wouldn't harm or make you uncomfortable. Is it also easier when a girl has the hots for a boy for her to exercise self control but harder the other way around. Many a time I did that and it wasn't my intention, it just came so naturally to say or do something that she didnt exactly appreciate to put it like that? i am a virgin though as i chose so im not totally bad ie i can turn down offers
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Post by soufflé on Jan 1, 2017 21:30:55 GMT -5
^if there were some tiny benefits to being a woman within that semi-coherent post, they're cancelled out by literally everything else about the experience of being female in today's society
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Post by Reba on Jan 1, 2017 21:38:12 GMT -5
But one has a lot of fun as a girl and many things are easier done because of how people think. Think of a girl who sees a guy and wants to talk to him. Now a man who wants to talk to a girl/woman has it harder. A girl might worry about a man who approaches her, but a woman my same age is fine? there are plenty of lesbians around so it's dumb to assume that a woman wouldn't harm or make you uncomfortable. Is it also easier when a girl has the hots for a boy for her to exercise self control but harder the other way around. Many a time I did that and it wasn't my intention, it just came so naturally to say or do something that she didnt exactly appreciate to put it like that? i am a virgin though as i chose so im not totally bad ie i can turn down offers this is next level poetry
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Post by Reba on Jan 1, 2017 21:41:00 GMT -5
personally i would choose to be a female because then i could touch some boobies all the time, amirite fellas
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Jan 1, 2017 22:10:35 GMT -5
Though I highly disagree with the generalisations of MDS' elaboration, the whole topic of gender is a can of worms that I always enjoy seeing opened, mostly because I have such a lot of thoughts about it myself that I enjoy a chance to let them out. There are indeed both pros and cons to being either of the two 'classical' sexes (in lack of a better word; I learned a term for this just a couple of days ago, but I can't recall it at the moment), but on the whole, men have it incredibly much easier. And, more importantly, safer. Not every woman experiences first-hand discrimination very often (or at least in their own perceptions, they don't - I've known women who claimed that there was total gender equality in Western society), but that doesn't by any means mean that it's not happening. Behaviour differs wildly between social groups, and a lot of the ones that exist do discriminate based on gender, even if some women are lucky enough to only be a part of those that don't. Also, I like Lego, and I wouldn't want a childhood of people giving me dolls instead. So yes, having whatever amount of experience that I have at this point with how society view gender, I would have chosen to be male.
As for the whole 'giving birth' thing, I don't know. On one level, I do realise that it's very painful, and appreciate not having to make the decision whether or not I should be able to. On another level, I'm really angry about having been cheated out of the chance to try it. It feels like nature has decided that I'm not strong enough for it, like I'm being told what I can and cannot do; something which, funnily enough, men stereotypically aren't good at handling.
David, self-control is an individual trait which has nothing to do with gender, although I admit that if you grow up believing that your sex generally has less self-control than the other, that may very well become a self-fulfilling prophecy. I don't want to offend you, but I am hurt to see that you think my gender has inherently lower self-control, so I feel a need to protest.
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Post by Reba on Jan 1, 2017 22:18:31 GMT -5
it's true though, aggression means less self-control and one of the only proven links to aggressive behavior is possession of the Y chromosome.
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on Jan 1, 2017 22:25:12 GMT -5
I took it to mean self-control in a sexual context - such as thinking through what you're going to say to your crush before saying it instead of just saying whatever your hormones want you to.
Afterthought: As for aggression, it's entirely possible to rationally decide that you want to hit someone. Agression isn't always blind instinct.
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Post by Reba on Jan 1, 2017 23:01:29 GMT -5
that might have been matty's point, i really didn't understand a word of his post. but i'd say aggression definitely correlates to blind instinct, and something like self-defense wouldn't be an act of aggression; the key part is unprovoked violence, and unprovoked is irrational.
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Jan 1, 2017 23:58:22 GMT -5
What.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Jan 2, 2017 1:14:02 GMT -5
As for the whole 'giving birth' thing, I don't know. On one level, I do realise that it's very painful, and appreciate not having to make the decision whether or not I should be able to. On another level, I'm really angry about having been cheated out of the chance to try it. It feels like nature has decided that I'm not strong enough for it, like I'm being told what I can and cannot do; something which, funnily enough, men stereotypically aren't good at handling. That's an interesting pov
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Post by M David Steel on Jan 21, 2017 19:05:24 GMT -5
I told my dad in a talk we had reminding him i never chose to be a boy id have gladly chosen to be a boy if i had the choice at birth and he said oh dont start this it sounded like it offended him for me to say that
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Post by B. on Jan 22, 2017 10:12:11 GMT -5
I would choose to still be a woman, because I love it.
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