vfds321s
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Post by vfds321s on Dec 21, 2018 21:20:18 GMT -5
Are there any Christmas references in ASOUE? (I don't know if we should count the Anguished Appendicies or ATWQ) I know this IS a Series of UNFORTUNATE events and Christmas is supposed to be a happy & joyful holiday, but not all Christmases (or any holiday for that matter) are pleasant.
Also while we're at it. Do you see any VFD / Sebald codes in any Christmas movie and special.
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Post by Foxy on Dec 22, 2018 9:44:18 GMT -5
I think the Baudelaires might be Jewish, which would mean they do not celebrate Christmas. I think Sunny has a couple Jewish words she speaks, such as "Yomhuledet", and then another reference in TE which I think had to do with the Holocaust, maybe? Off the top of my head, I can't think of any Christmas references, neither to the sacred Christmas, nor the secular Christmas. Although referring to Santa as a burglar would be pretty Snicket-y.
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Post by Dante on Dec 22, 2018 12:16:20 GMT -5
Let's also recall that Snicket's various Christmas-adjacent picture books have tended to approach the subject from a somewhat unChristmassy perspective. The Lump of Coal riffs on a Christmas punishment, features a drugstore employee dressed as Santa in place of the man himself, and never uses the word "Christmas". The Latke Who Couldn't Stop Screaming, subtitled A Christmas Story, is about Hanukah and how it isn't Christmas. And Handler couldn't even publish The Baby in the Manger. As Foxy says, the Baudelaires are probably Jewish; I think Handler may have confirmed this somewhere. Daniel Handler himself is certainly Jewish. So I don't think Christmas is necessarily uppermost in their minds.
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Post by Uncle Algernon on Dec 22, 2018 12:27:41 GMT -5
I think the Baudelaires might be Jewish, which would mean they do not celebrate Christmas. I mean, I've got a Jewish friend who does celebrate the secular Christmas with their family, removed from any religious concerns. Besides, it is unspoken canon that the Baudelaires are Jewish, but I've never seen any serious reflection of whether that's in a religious sense, or they are simply of Jewish origins and culture. The latter would completely allow them to celebrate Christmas, again in a secular Nativity-less way.
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Post by Seymour Glass on Dec 28, 2018 0:52:47 GMT -5
Daniel Handler confirmed that the Beaudelaires are Jewish.
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