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Post by lsandthebooks on Sept 6, 2019 16:37:21 GMT -5
The fire happened during the day, so it's not like they couldn't see. Their kids were out of the house, so they didn't have to focus on protecting anyone.
Bertrand and Beatrice were specifically trained to deal with fire. They've survived dealing with fires and enemies many times before. On top of that, they lived in a huge mansion. They must've had at least several minutes to escape, because the fire had to go through so many rooms...
Why did they die from a simple house fire?
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Sept 6, 2019 19:50:38 GMT -5
The fire itself was very suspicious, and I believe it was planned by one or both parents. But unfortunately, I need to recognize that with almost 99 percent sure at least one of them has died. Note carefully again page 13 of the Snicket file. (I have already provided evidence that it refers to the Baudelaire Mansion fire): "Because of the evidence discussed on page 9 experts now suspect that there may in fact be a survivor of the fire, but the survivor's whereabouts are unknown."
When you think of the Baudelaire couple, that phrase brings sad meaning with it. Experts are sure one of them is dead. The evidence most likely is photos of one of the bodies inside the tunnel. By the way it is written, it is apparently unknown whether the body found was male or female.
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Post by Dante on Sept 7, 2019 4:08:46 GMT -5
There's been a lot of discussion over the years as to how the Baudelaire parents could have been killed, especially in light of the BBRE's hints that Olaf (or another villain) was present at the mansion that day. Some people believe that the Baudelaire parents might have been drugged or restrained in some way, but it is also possible that they were simply taken completely unawares.
The implications of the discussion of a survivor in the series always seem to me to be indicating that evidence of a single person being alive is the crucial element, not there being evidence of a single person dead. The fact that official reporting of the Baudelaire and Quagmire fires completely missed the possibility of a survivor in the former instance and the definite reality of a survivor in the latter instance indicates that the fires most likely completely eradicated the bodies; this also accounts for why we never hear any discussion of funerals for the Baudelaire parents. Some have complained about whether or not this is realistic, but to be honest, expecting things to be realistic in ASoUE is a losing battle. To return to the point, in such circumstances, uncertain evidence of a survivor relies on alleged sightings of or actions taken by a living person, rather than evidence of a corpse. And those actions might be mysterious for any number of reasons, such as an absolute determination to hide the fact that one has survived, or having been captured by one's enemies.
The general line of thought is that the Baudelaires fell foul of the hidden passageway from the mansion being locked from below, so the chances of a corpse appearing there are limited and seem to undermine the narrative purpose of having a passageway placed there in the first place. TEE implies a pretty tight narrative that later falls apart as Daniel Handler starts to favour a more ambiguous overall picture.
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Post by Foxy on Sept 7, 2019 9:13:47 GMT -5
Dante, I liked what you said about not being able to expect everything in the books to be realistic. So true!
I think Esme locked the tunnel escape door.
Our maybe the Baudelaire parents did escape, trusted Violet to take care of her siblings, and were never heard from again.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Sept 7, 2019 11:39:18 GMT -5
This idea of a found body came to mind through Jerome's book page.
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Post by Foxy on Sept 8, 2019 12:45:20 GMT -5
This idea of a found body came to mind through Jerome's book page. Was this in TPP?
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