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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 18, 2020 16:35:52 GMT -5
Where did you find a lot of those deleted scenes within deleted scenes? Did someone hack DreamWorks/Paramount the same way a ton of Amazing Spider-Man stuff including 2's recording sessions leaked during the 2014 Sony Hack?
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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 17, 2020 20:05:55 GMT -5
These deleted scenes are making me want to obtain the Reality Stone so that we can get the Silberling Cut, an expanded soundtrack for this film and 1492: Conquest of Paradise, and 7 Amazing Spider-Man movies that are part of the MCU but have nothing to do with Iron Man.
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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 16, 2020 20:59:48 GMT -5
Movie Trailers
This is the film's first US trailer, released while filming was still going on due to the delayed schedule. This is the film's second US trailer. The film's international trailer. No video from the english language version remains, so I took a bootleg of its audio and synched it up to an HD copy of the German version. It also includes footage and narration from Lemony Snicket that didn't end up in the finished movie. A TV commercial for the film centred around Violet which includes narration and footage that didn't end up in the final movie. A TV commercial for the film centred around Klaus which includes narration and footage that didn't end up in the final movie. A commercial for the movie's tie-in website, narrated by Jude Law. A behind the scenes video hosted by Liam Aiken. A commercial for a tie-in contest. A TV promo for the movie. So much of the material here and in the screenshots keep making me want to hunt down an assembly cut of the film, as a lot of the material seems to be left out even in the deleted scenes on my copy of the DVD. Particularly the shot of Klaus with the gas mask. I won't lie, when I was working on The Beastly Banquet I actually had a lot of those scenes in mind, along with some of the more bonkers stuff that made it into the video games (Count Olaf's house being infested with super rats and spiders, the Baudelaires inventing machines that throw apple cores and rocks, Cloudy Cliffs Court, etc.) The site mentions clips from the movie, and I remember hearing somewhere that MTV aired the train scene once and it had the OST version of "An Unpleasant Incident Involving a Train", which was a suspenseful ethnic+woodwinds track that had a variation play during the leech scene and Aunt Josephine's death instead of the alternate Attack of the Hook-Handed Man/Hurricane Herman we got in the final film. I wonder if that included the Curdled Cave scene but with "Interlude with Sailboat" (variation of Jo's theme) playing instead of "Curdled Cave"
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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 16, 2020 20:49:58 GMT -5
Honestly I was really worried the production of this film was more like what happened with PJO where the author was involved but the studio kept ignoring him and his ideas and as a result we got a film that was nothing like the book (twice). Then again, The Sea of Monsters tried to reinclude stuff that was left out like Dionysus, the Oracle, Clarisse La Rue, the prophecy, etc. so... That's a great observation about the score differences in the two PJO movies. To me, a big difference between the ASOUE film and the PJO films is that, while you can argue whether ASOUE works an adaptation, it still works as a film -- and at least in my opinion, the PJO movies fail on both accounts. (Also, shameless plug, if you're a PJO fan who loves music, may I direct you to the musical adaptation of The Lightning Thief? Written by yours truly, with Rick Riordan's seal of approval -- and I promise it's way more faithful than the film.) I've heard of the Lightning Thief musical, but I never really saw it, only heard the song about the half-bloods talking about their parents when Percy doesn't know who his dad is
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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 16, 2020 1:24:11 GMT -5
This film feels like one of those bizarre things that should have a documentary about them.
Honestly I was really worried the production of this film was more like what happened with PJO where the author was involved but the studio kept ignoring him and his ideas and as a result we got a film that was nothing like the book (twice). Then again, The Sea of Monsters tried to reinclude stuff that was left out like Dionysus, the Oracle, Clarisse La Rue, the prophecy, etc. so...
I feel like if the ASOUE film did get a sequel, it might have ended up like PJO2 where the entire film feels like it has a different tone than the first to the point where even the score is different (Christophe Beck's Lightning Thief is an adventurous fantasy orchestral score with quite a few recognizable themes, Andrew Lockington's Sea of Monsters is a Zimmer clone crossed with a wannabe post-Avatar/Amazing Spider-Man James Horner with like...two themes: main theme/Percy/darkness and Thalia's one-woman-singing leitmotif)...so I wonder if ASOUE2 would have even brought back Thomas Newman.
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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 14, 2020 15:44:08 GMT -5
If we do get #ReleaseTheSilberlingCut to be a thing, then what about a complete/expanded release of the soundtrack? I really want an expanded release of Thomas Newman's masterpiece and maybe also some of the unused demos that I heard in The Sad Score.
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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 12, 2020 17:57:04 GMT -5
*cricket sounds*
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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 10, 2020 20:56:31 GMT -5
I wonder...has Silberling ever directed something people actually liked? Since I mostly heard about him directing that weird Casper movie and the raunchy comedy reimagining of Land of the Lost.
The show's dark comedy approach is nice, but I won't lie I kinda prefer Silberling's emotional drama attempt, though honestly it would be fun to see a fusion of the two. Can we at least agree the movie did Hurricane Herman better than the show?
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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 9, 2020 19:01:48 GMT -5
I'm honestly surprised that Daniel Handler was still involved with the film even after the test screening drama, or that he remained on board after Sonnenfeld was fired and replaced with Silberling
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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 8, 2020 2:21:39 GMT -5
Wait, you thought the only bad thing was the Great Unknown just being a mecha-Bombinating Beast? You thought everything else worked?
Even Fiona Green Goblining herself over being told "Klaus would be ashamed of you?" Even the random fanservice and references to the 2004 film? Even the noir stuff? Even Julia Sham?
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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 7, 2020 23:38:56 GMT -5
I wonder if I should straight-up reveal what my plans were here I strongly advise you to reveal your plans. I was hesitant to publish Matt Litory and the Multiple Intelligences, and then I realized something: If I didn't do it now, I would never do it. The staff here is nice and the number of people is small. While you can expect to receive criticism if you end up publishing theories (as I usually do), everyone here is really cool when you decide to publish creative stuff and fanfics. (some are simply indifferent, but be indifferent to who is indifferent). Okay, here goes nothing... Connor then has a job at the Anxious Clown but he then quits and gets fired at the same time and heads to Lake Lachrymose, where Wendy was apparently swimming and finding stuff from the wreckage of Aunt Josephine's house. The leeches show up, Wendy gets bitten in the hand, and they leave once Robyn shows up. We then meet this guy named Harold who is dating Audrey, but Audrey is busy doing undercover work on the other side of V.F.D. (yes she is a double agent). The crew go to Ronald's house for a meeting, where we find out he now has the Incredibly Deadly Viper and they eat puttanesca. The day of the titular Beastly Banquet happens at the Hotel Preludio[sic], and the cast tries to find out what is going on, but everything sort of goes wrong for them. Ruby, Ronald, and Robyn are barely able to hear something about the remains of the ruins of the Hotel Denouement before getting kidnapped by Fiona and Fernald, locked inside a car, and left alone in train tracks outside the Last Chance General Store. Audrey hears something about a sugar bowl, but gets wine spilled on her dress and has to leave to take a shower. Wendeline hears something about a statuette, but then gets captured by the man with a beard but no hair and the woman with hair but no beard, and is left alone in a dark warehouse near Briny Beach. Ruby, Ronald, and Robyn barely escape by repeatedly banging the glass with random stuff they find in the car including a Littlest Elf toy, an old book, and a mannequin hand, and go into the store and call for help. Harold goes to Audrey's room, she seduces him, and reveals part of her plan. Wendeline somehow manages to escape, break out, and use her knowledge of water to aid in that escape somehow before running to a phone and finding out about the Hotel Denouement thing. She heads over there, meets a shady-looking guy, and is given a sugar bowl, which she opens. Inside is the Bombinating Beast. She goes to her house, a place similar to Aunt Josephine's but by the sea, and rests puzzled by the figurine. And that's just the beginning. The rest of it was really loosely planned, but to summarize: Connor, Ruby, Ronald, and some other folks are at a submarine and detect the Great Unknown, Wendy's house gets burned down, she survives using a book draft and the Verdant Flammable Devices, Audrey performs at an adaptation of the Epic of Gilgamesh where she uses a code to get Harold to be on the look out for the main antagonist, there's some stuff involving two sugar bowls, more Fiona and Fernald stuff, then Wendeline goes to Olaf's tower, faces Fiona and Fernald, and Fiona threatens Wendy with a harpoon gun until she says "Klaus would be ashamed of you", at which point she gives up, Fernald shoots the harpoon gun, and Fiona (for some reason) jumps in between and takes her own life to save Wendy. Fernald freaks out, Fiona dies, and Audrey shows up and reveals she isn't actually afraid of rats, but is rather a baticeer like Beatrice but using rats instead of bats. Wendy finds out more stuff about the Bombinating Beast, Connor dies revealing some other secret, a big old chase happens in the city, Wendy blows the Bombinating Beast, jumps into the Great Unknown, and finds out it is a robot piloted by female Finnish pirates who are now led by Ellington Feint for some reason...(stupid), the Quagmires are still there somehow along with Widdershins (Fiona and Fernald had teamed up with Feint), some really dumb stuff I can't remember happens, Audrey wears a disguise called "Julia Sham", some other stuff happens, Wendeline decides she doesn't want to live with the V.F.D. thing and decides to leave, and goes to Briny Beach at which point the Baudelaires arrive, she talks to them and leaves to the island, and stays there until the writer heads to the island and interviews her. Trust me, it's pretty bad and I'm a bit glad I abandoned the idea.
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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 7, 2020 14:59:44 GMT -5
Something I learned is that characters can change. You just need to create a good reason for that. The bigger the change, the bigger the event that led to that change must be. I wonder if I should straight-up reveal what my plans were here
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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 7, 2020 0:11:32 GMT -5
I was working on a V.F.D. AU involving my characters, and even started a fic here (The Beastly Banquet) but I kinda shelved the idea and looking back on my plans, they were really kinda stupid. Didn't help that my characters changed radically between when I started writing that and now.
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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 7, 2020 0:07:18 GMT -5
I remember someone in this board posted fragments of an older draft, and there was a lot of material involving Kit Snicket (referred to as "Pregnant Woman") and two kids I don't know (Quagmires?). The film's V.F.D. stuff is pretty much foreshadowing or the Scottish Trope, except for the "V.F.D." on the packet of Verdant Flammable Devices when Klaus finds the spyglass. I also remember that the video game sort of played up some of the V.F.D. stuff from the book, with Ike Anwhistle's journal even titled "Versatile Fireman's Diary" or something like that. The videogame is actually rather interesting in that its development must have begun at least 1-2 years prior to the movie's release since it came out around the same time. That means that it would have likely been based on elements of Robert Gordon's initial rewrite of Daniel Handler's original script, before it was rewritten again. Wait, so does that mean that the original ending was the sequel-bait of the Baudelaires on a train station? I'd kill to hunt down the original scripts, concept art, and complete Thomas Newman score of the film (same goes for 1492: Conquest of Paradise, though with that movie it's more due to how awful and cheesy it is except for Vangelis' score) just to see what could have been This film has to be one of the strangest things in my childhood.
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Post by thathoboravioli on Aug 6, 2020 21:28:21 GMT -5
Interesting that, unlike TBB, secret organizations are already mentioned here in the introduction. It is a pity that there was no time to work better on VFD in the film.
Daniel Handler's original draft for the film was even more explicit about VFD and actually included Kit Snicket's first appearance, as she was on the Baudelaires' trail throughout the film. However, the finished version of the film either downplays or removes many of these references entirely (even the ones that did end up getting filmed) because the studio thought it might confuse people. I remember someone in this board posted fragments of an older draft, and there was a lot of material involving Kit Snicket (referred to as "Pregnant Woman") and two kids I don't know (Quagmires?). The film's V.F.D. stuff is pretty much foreshadowing or the Scottish Trope, except for the "V.F.D." on the packet of Verdant Flammable Devices when Klaus finds the spyglass. I also remember that the video game sort of played up some of the V.F.D. stuff from the book, with Ike Anwhistle's journal even titled "Versatile Fireman's Diary" or something like that.
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