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Post by VioletsBigSis on Jul 8, 2005 21:41:20 GMT -5
I think this is a more difficult question than it at first seems. I think it fits into a lot of fiction originally designed for young people. The adults either have to be dead, stupid or missing, or else the kids don't get to have any fun! Disney hasn't created a movie yet with a main character that has two happy parents through the whole thing!
While I think it works within the story, I think it's also very much with the style of the writing as well.
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Post by Hooky on Jul 10, 2005 12:09:09 GMT -5
I think it portrays that children can be just as smart as adults, and that they deserve to be respected as well.
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Post by lauren on Jul 10, 2005 19:35:44 GMT -5
good point, forlorn. "Oh, how I wish there would be an organisation that picks up and employs smart people." such an organization would be very dangerous. also on that point...VFD does pick up reasonably smart children but the children are generally rich...coincidence?
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Post by Antenora on Jul 10, 2005 19:37:41 GMT -5
I imagine rich children are probably better educated, and more well-read. Also, VFD takes children from rich families because wealthier people can afford to work as volunteers.
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Post by Deathly Hallow on Jul 17, 2005 21:20:26 GMT -5
I think that it's trying to show that kids are just as smart, or in the Baudelaire's case smarter than adults. We are infact. I've seen it with my own eyes that children have proven adults wrong so many times and adults don't listen to us because they think we're talking rubbish and they just assume that kids just talk complete nonsense most of the time. But there are some adults who actually admit that kids can be smarter than them...
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Post by MsMourning on Jul 18, 2005 21:12:02 GMT -5
Maybe LS is just trying to show people that they're not always right. That just because they are older doesn't mean that they are always right or know what's going on. Just a thought....
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Post by Sugary Snicket on Jul 19, 2005 12:01:05 GMT -5
Exactly. As Olaf said in the movie, "No one EVER listens to children", even when they probably should. Kids can pick up on things that adults often can't see.
....most of the adults in the books are retards anyway.....
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Post by SF on Jul 21, 2005 12:13:35 GMT -5
Almost all of the adults in ASOUE seem oblivious to what's going on around them. For one reason or another, they become distracted. Such as Mr. Poe gets distracted by his job at Mulctuary Money Management, Aunt Jo by all of her phobias (not to mention Captain Sham). I believe that it is just another way to make the Baudelaires more independent, and to realize that there are some bad people in the world (i.e Olaf, the Sinister Duo, the troupe...). Feel free to disagree!
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Post by Sugary Snicket on Aug 3, 2005 11:40:26 GMT -5
All kids see adults as morons, don't they? (Come on, adults, even you thought so when you were a teen.) Handler was taking this to the extreme to poke fun at the grown-ups a bit. It's an in joke for kids.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Aug 3, 2005 21:28:43 GMT -5
It's showing that adults aren't perfect and they aren't always the best, brightest, and smartest of the human race. It shows their shortcomings and that kids can outsmart adults and are able to do extraordinary things adults either cannot or will not do. And as others have said it shows that adults should listen to children and place more faith and trust in them.
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Post by Sugary Snicket on Aug 4, 2005 9:38:15 GMT -5
Thank you! You've just spoken for all of us.
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Post by dharma inititave on Nov 23, 2005 20:26:20 GMT -5
Almost all of the adults in ASOUE seem oblivious to what's going on around them. For one reason or another, they become distracted. Such as Mr. Poe gets distracted by his job at Mulctuary Money Management, Aunt Jo by all of her phobias (not to mention Captain Sham). I believe that it is just another way to make the Baudelaires more independent, and to realize that there are some bad people in the world (i.e Olaf, the Sinister Duo, the troupe...). Feel free to disagree! i totally agree with you it makes more sense then some people on this board
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Post by Grace on Nov 25, 2005 8:40:09 GMT -5
The categories for adults IMHO are...
1) laissez faire philosophy (Monty, Josephine, Charles, to some extent, Remora and Bass, Jerome, Justice Strauss, Hal, Widdershins, etc.) 2) evil (MWBBNH, WHHBNB, Olaf, Sir, Esme, etc.) 3) noble (The Snickets. That's about it)
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Post by LargeManFeOrMale on Nov 25, 2005 9:32:12 GMT -5
I think this is a more difficult question than it at first seems. I think it fits into a lot of fiction originally designed for young people. The adults either have to be dead, stupid or missing, or else the kids don't get to have any fun! Disney hasn't created a movie yet with a main character that has two happy parents through the whole thing! Well. . . you could say Finding Nemo
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Post by Sugary Snicket on Nov 25, 2005 10:25:54 GMT -5
Yes, but at the beginning Nemo's mom gets eaten. That's why Marlin, Nemo's dad, was so over-protective.
Kids have wild and colorful imaginations, whereas adults seem to think only in a black-and-white, "this is this, that is that" philosophy.
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