Celeste
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Post by Celeste on Oct 13, 2004 14:00:44 GMT -5
Hey, you're right..it does..
Blah. I was thinking..
Beatrice could be Elwyn and Mr. Baudelaire's (I think of him as Bertrude) little sister. She wanted to marry Lemony but her brother Bertrude forbid it..and made her marry the Quags' dad.
Haha..I'm weird.
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Post by MikeT on Oct 17, 2004 6:02:35 GMT -5
Okay, I think I just made a startling discovery...
hold on, let me go get my LSUA from upstairs...
okay, Like all of you have said, Olaf is Olaf Snicket...
This is because if you look on pg. 67 of the UA... "...In the center is the actor who played Young Rolf whose name escapes me - Omar maybe?!"
This implies that Olaf is DEFINATLY his first name....
Now, if you look on pg. 123: "The member I am speaking of - I will just call him O (Olaf), though currently he prefers S (Snicket?) - has recently done a deal of vicious, unfair, and impolite acts that I shudder to describe.
Now, I'm sure I read somewhere that sometimes the VFD members switched their letters with first and surnames...if this be true it is Olaf Snicket...thus proving the cousin theory...
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Post by Dante on Oct 17, 2004 7:29:09 GMT -5
Given the possible timing of the letter (sometime between Books 2 and 3, although there are chronological inconsistencies there) then the "S" could have stood for "Stephano".
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Post by MikeT on Oct 17, 2004 8:00:30 GMT -5
^^ yes, it could have done, I guess...
But it could have stood for Captain Sham, or Shirley...
I think it is more suiting for it to be Snicket...?
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pg13snicketfile
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Post by pg13snicketfile on Oct 17, 2004 14:13:20 GMT -5
For some reason I remember him asking the VFD members to call him "T" and them then refusing... (that was in the meeting from the transcript).
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Post by Dante on Oct 17, 2004 14:17:10 GMT -5
"O: Actually, I'd prefer to be called T. M: We're not going to call you anything. Please leave at once."
It was something like that.
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Antenora
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Post by Antenora on Oct 17, 2004 15:41:17 GMT -5
I wonder what disguise Olaf was using when he "preferred to be called T". None of his false names from the books start with T, so we're in the dark.
However, I once had a gym teacher who looked like Olaf and his last name began with T.
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Post by lemonyslova on Nov 22, 2004 14:54:55 GMT -5
I think Count Olaf's last name is Squalor because his parents didn't want him to know his last nameso he just went along with Esme. If anybody has a question about my answer please email lemonyslova
From, lemonyslova
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Post by SnicketFires on Nov 22, 2004 22:14:22 GMT -5
"O: Actually, I'd prefer to be called T. M: We're not going to call you anything. Please leave at once." It was something like that. This quote proves that Olaf is indeed his first name. Last night, I started to record page 33 of the UA into my Commonplace Book. It states there that everyone in the transcript is referred to the first initial of their first name. Fin.
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Post by CandyCan3Child on Dec 3, 2004 19:55:48 GMT -5
From TBB: "He is either a third cousin four times removed, or a fourth cousin three times removed. He is nt your closest relative on the TEXTfamily tree but he is the closest geographically. That's why-" " If he lives in the city, " said violet, "why didn't our parents ever invite him over?"pg 15 TBB that's cool once you think about it. everyone's interrealted. so if the quagmires ARE in VFD, then wouldn't Violet be going out with some distant cousin of hers? Not that i have a problem with it, Eadger Allen Poe married his 13 year old cousin ( i think) and Mr. Poe's kid is called Eadger. hmm.. And Van Gogh fell in love with his cousin as well and had a sister called Wilhelmia ( that name rocks!) but that got kinda off topic. and i read somewhere in this forum that anything in the first three books aren't that good for clues, but the whole thing in page15 fits into this discusion. whew! that was a long post!
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Post by PJ on Dec 3, 2004 21:56:00 GMT -5
Or Olaf just faked the family tree thing and isn't related. Which kinda throws everything off.
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Post by Dante on Dec 4, 2004 2:57:53 GMT -5
that's cool once you think about it. everyone's interrealted. so if the quagmires ARE in VFD, then wouldn't Violet be going out with some distant cousin of hers? Uh... No. Where exactly does it say that everybody in V.F.D. is inter-related?
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Post by PJ on Dec 4, 2004 4:42:27 GMT -5
Well, the family tree does kinda hint that some VFDers are related. But still. There is no solid proof.
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Post by Dante on Dec 4, 2004 4:45:23 GMT -5
Well, the family tree does kinda hint that some VFDers are related. And the mayor of the French town I go on holiday to is John Kerry's cousin, but it doesn't mean that he's planning on forming a coalition with the French president to overthrow America and make it part of a new French empire, does it? If some Volunteers are related, it's because they're related, not because you have to be a relative to be allowed into the organisation. If that was true, it would be stupid.
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Antenora
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Post by Antenora on Dec 4, 2004 13:28:58 GMT -5
Oh no! Kerry and the Frenchmen are going to take over!
But anyway, here is how I see it: VFD is composed mainly of three families: The Snickets, the Quagmires, and the Baudelaires. There are various other families, many of them with fortunes that OFD is after. However, not everyone is related to everyone else. The family tree might not even be strictly geneological--each branch could be a VFD family.
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