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Post by tgreene12 on Oct 21, 2004 20:54:59 GMT -5
Just wanted to know what you guys think.
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Post by kjlsnicket29 on Oct 21, 2004 20:55:55 GMT -5
No, I do not.
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Post by Charles Vane on Oct 21, 2004 22:17:19 GMT -5
I don't think so, I've heard Violet dresses kinda gothy in the movies.
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Post by tgreene12 on Oct 21, 2004 22:30:41 GMT -5
Yes she does dress gothy in the movie, i can confirm that. Did you Vote?
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Post by artluvr on Oct 22, 2004 5:46:52 GMT -5
Like swans, I think it's reminiscent of those overly melodramatic Victorian Gothic dime novels, but not the "new" kind of goth. That's a little bit of why I dislike Violet's fishnet arm things in the movie, because it's not evocative of the atmosphere that ASOUE should have. I mean, you can buy those at Hot Topic. I know, it's a dumb thing to get irritated about but still.
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Post by Bobkytten on Oct 22, 2004 9:55:11 GMT -5
I could see how the books may be described as gothic, but it doesn't quite fit. Much of the atmosphere is in line with proper gothic novels, but, well, these books are black comedy. So, grim, yes. Gothic, no.
As a rather big fan of the gothic architecture, though, I'd be thrilled to see some in the movie. However, from the previews I've seen, it looks more Victorian.
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Post by Sapphire on Oct 23, 2004 8:52:06 GMT -5
I don't think gothic fits ASOUE very well. They're grim, and not many happy things happen, but the characters aren't pissimistic or anything, and I just don't think they're gothic.
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Post by champ103 on Oct 23, 2004 9:00:16 GMT -5
I don't think they are, no. Just because slightly unhappy things happen to them doesn't make them gothic.
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Post by Emmerz ze Silly Goose on Oct 23, 2004 9:30:15 GMT -5
I'm not too good at judging what's gothic or not, for there are so many ways you could define gothic. ASOUE could be gothic in the sense that is the way the books are written, but that's more of black humor. The way the books are compiled and how they look, sorta looks gothic...or at least to me.
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Post by SpookyMeggie on Oct 23, 2004 18:42:56 GMT -5
There's gothic, and then there's Goth, which are two very different things.
Gothic refers to an architectural style, and a period in history, as well as a writing style -- "Of or relating to a style of fiction that emphasizes the grotesque, mysterious, and desolate."
Goth refers to either the visogoths, or those sad looking kids with all the eyeliner.
Gothic literature is definitely the style Unfortunate Events is mocking. it's kind of penny-dreadful-nouveau, but can't really be called gothic because it isnt taking itself seriously. It's gothic with a wink and a nudge.
word history, stolen from Dictionary.com Word History: The combination Gothic romance represents a union of two of the major influences in the development of European culture, the Roman Empire and the Germanic tribes that invaded it. The Roman origins of romance must be sought in the etymology of that word, but we can see clearly that Gothic is related to the name Goth used for one of those invading Germanic tribes. The word Gothic, first recorded in 1611 in a reference to the language of the Goths, was extended in sense in several ways, meaning “Germanic,” “medieval, not classical,” “barbarous,” and also an architectural style that was not Greek or Roman. Horace Walpole applied the word Gothic to his novel The Castle of Otranto, a Gothic Story (1765) in the sense “medieval, not classical.” From this novel filled with scenes of terror and gloom in a medieval setting descended a literary genre still popular today; from its subtitle descended the name for it.
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Post by PJ on Oct 25, 2004 6:27:37 GMT -5
I don't think they are, no. Just because slightly unhappy things happen to them doesn't make them gothic. Slightly unhappy? That's a rather big understatement If u call: -Having ur parents killed in a fire and having ur house burnt down -Living with Count Olaf -Uncle monty's death -Josephine's death -Your only friends are kidnapped -You are framed for muder, and the real criminal is presumed dead -a filfthy evil man keeps on dogging ur footsteps, bent on stealing your money and causing you as much pain as possible being slightly unlucky, then you must have one hell of an unlucky life
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Post by Pucca on Oct 25, 2004 13:41:23 GMT -5
They're not gothic at all. I mean, yes, the stories are a twist to other types of books, and some of the facts on famous people were, in fact, people from the Gothic era. But the sense of the stories aren't gothic.
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Post by Danny's Girl on Oct 26, 2004 2:44:47 GMT -5
Not Gothic...just delightfully twisted.
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Post by Blofeld on Oct 27, 2004 4:36:09 GMT -5
Not gothic, not at all. Gothic is like this: The books are like this:
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Post by BabyChibiC on Oct 31, 2004 15:38:11 GMT -5
I put dark but not gothic because I dont find the books to be gothic....but very sad indeed
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