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Post by SnicketFires on May 22, 2005 17:44:06 GMT -5
And do you really think the Baud parents would let them go to Count Olaf? They'd never even met him, as far as we know. Olaf obviously found some way to change the will. With idiots like Poe bumbling around in politics, who knows what he could do?! Actually, since the Baudelaire parents were in VFD, and Olaf caused the schism between the two sides of the noble organization, I do believe that Mr. and Mrs. Baudelaire have met Olaf at some point or another.
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Post by Dante on May 23, 2005 1:04:41 GMT -5
I think that when the Baudelaire will was written, the Baudelaire parents assumed two things: That Poe was competent; and that Olaf was no longer up to his old tricks. The Baudelaire parents would never have anticipated that Olaf would try to take the children into his "care."
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Post by SF on Jun 7, 2005 11:26:57 GMT -5
I think that he, along with all the other "family members" they stay with, are Not related tot he Baudelaires, and if they are, they are not blood relatives
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Post by hookhandedgirl on Jun 7, 2005 19:02:36 GMT -5
dude, they say it in the books and movie.
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Post by Sugary Snicket on Jul 19, 2005 12:27:56 GMT -5
I believe that Olaf may have some sort of small connection to the Baudelaires, but I don't think that he is a member of the Baudelaire line. I think he somehow forged the will, or killed the parents, forged the will, and set the house on fire. maybe Mr. Poe works for him? He's about as smart as most of Olaf's associates, so why not?
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Post by deadlight on Aug 9, 2005 12:14:12 GMT -5
Yep, Olaf is definately related to somebody either in the Baudelaire or Snicket family. Much as they may regret it, they can't help it. Like Harry Potter and the Dursleys. And by the way, I think Olaf's associates are much smarter than Poe, although I do think Mr. Poe could be working for Olaf. Maybe.
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Post by Sugary Snicket on Aug 10, 2005 11:01:27 GMT -5
It said on NamelessNovel.com that one of the volunteer/villains formerly described was Mr. Poe..... the other was Mr. Remora..... so why not?
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Post by selina on Aug 21, 2005 17:59:30 GMT -5
i doubt he is related to them or iff he is i'm not surpried that he would try to kill his family
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Post by sydaneetee on Aug 22, 2005 13:13:31 GMT -5
well, he could be related by VFD, not blood related. even though olaf has turned away from vfd now
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Post by lemony_lover on Aug 26, 2005 5:47:03 GMT -5
I think Olaf isent, he use to be a part of the VFD right? And so di the syblings parents too!
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Post by tennisguru on Sept 4, 2005 11:49:09 GMT -5
Hey, these boards are awesome! Anyway... Olaf cannot be the Bauldelaire's third cousin four times removed or fourth cousin three times removed. He has to be lying. Your great-grandfather's fourth cousin would be your fourth cousin, three times removed. Your great-great grandfather's third cousin would be your third cousin, four times removed. So for the Olaf to be related to the Bauldelaires in that way, then he would be the age of a great-grandfather or great-great grandfather, and I don't think Olaf is in his 100's. I got that info from www.tedpack.org/cousins.html, by the way, incase you guys don't believe the n00bs,
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Post by Dante on Sept 4, 2005 12:52:41 GMT -5
I think we worked it out one time, and decided that:
1. It doesn't matter and it's one of those things which has no meaning, but is just funny (or was that just me?); 2. If one side had children at a young age, and the other at an old age, then it could work. I forget which side is which, though.
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Post by Antenora on Sept 4, 2005 13:02:16 GMT -5
If Olaf's ancestors had children at a young age, that side of the family would end up being older.
And I think that the odd designations for Baudelaire relatives(nineteenth cousins and such) are just there to be funny, and we don't need to analyze them too deeply, although it's interesting to speculate on.
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Post by Brian on Sept 4, 2005 13:30:02 GMT -5
If Olaf's ancestors had children at a young age, that side of the family would end up being older. And I think that the odd designations for Baudelaire relatives(nineteenth cousins and such) are just there to be funny, and we don't need to analyze them too deeply, although it's interesting to speculate on. Very true, but tennisguru has a point. I don't remember any previous discussions on this, so I was very surprised when I saw that post - I hadn't bothered to work out relationship sciences for myself. Maybe that's just Handler's little way of saying that Olaf wasn't a relative. While he didn't know the VFD plot back then, I think Olaf was always meant to be the arsonist of the Baudelaire home. (At least, we know he was meant to be when The Wide Window was written. I believe this was true from the start.) So Olaf had some sort of master plan to kill the Baudelaires and steal the fortune from the start, and he thus probably wasn't a relative.
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Post by Ennui on Sept 8, 2005 8:54:40 GMT -5
I think it's rather more interesting if he is a relative, as deadlight hinted. It also adds motive to his relentless pursuit of the Baudelaire fortune in particular-if he believes it is rightfully his.
And I believe there is no doubt at all that the Baudelaire parents and Olaf have not only met, but were (unfortunately for the Baudelaires) on speaking terms.
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