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Post by Ernist on Jan 10, 2007 8:25:24 GMT -5
IN the bad beggining he is a henchman of Olafs but he dose not apear again so....
WHO IS HEHE?!?!?!?!?!
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Post by Dante on Jan 10, 2007 9:55:03 GMT -5
I know we've discussed this before, and indeed, here's a thread. But to elaborate... The important-looking man with warts on his face isn't named with the troupe when they show up at Olaf's house at the middle of the book, but since there were supposed to be ten troupe members there, and the regular troupe plus the other five named during the play sequence makes ten (bald man with the long nose plus the hook-handed man plus the enormous one with the indistinct gender plus the two white-faced women plus the three short men plus the short-haired woman plus the wart-faced man makes ten), he probably was there. It's interesting that he plays an important role at the end, shutting off the lights so Olaf can escape, and he's directly mentioned as having escaped with Olaf and the regular troupe, whereas the three short men and the short-haired woman aren't. However, despite that, he isn't mentioned in the troupe recap at the start of TRR, or ever again (I've heard it said that the man with pimples on his chin from TCC is the same guy, but since the wart-faced man looked important whereas the pimple-chinned guy wasn't at all dignified, and since a pimply chin is very different to a warty face, then I'd say that's bunk). I think he was probably planned to be a full-time troupe member, but Handler either decided that he had enough with the other troupe members or didn't want to offend important-looking people with warts on their face, and so the character was cut. The accompanying song Scream and Run Away mentions "one long-nosed bald man with warts," implying that the bald man and the wart-faced man are meant to be the same person, but that simply isn't supported by the books. Edit: Also, I corrected the spelling in the title of this thread to avoid confusion; hope you don't mind.
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Post by jacob4000 on Jan 10, 2007 17:12:00 GMT -5
I think Dante summed up the mystery and theories about the wart-faced man pretty well there. So basically, what he said.
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Post by Ernist on Jan 11, 2007 9:25:02 GMT -5
Ernist here I just had an idea. What if the wort faced faced man was never a member of the Theater troupe but a Enimy of V.F.D.
PS: I know Dante but it is locked
PPS: no I don't mind
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Post by Antenora on Jan 11, 2007 10:39:43 GMT -5
If he was an enemy of VFD(that is, the entire VFD, not just the noble side that Olaf and his allies despise), it's odd that he helped Olaf escape by turning off the lights. However, we should keep in mind that Handler wouldn't have had the VFD plot planned out while writing TBB. I understand that he'd originally planned Olaf's theater company to be a sinister group obsessed with eyes, but that's a different matter.
As Dante mentioned, Handler probably didn't feel a need to reuse the wart-faced man, as he had plenty of ideas for the other troupe members. I also suspect that the three short men and the short-haired woman weren't really intended to be henchpersons, but just stagehands who thought they were just creating a play, not aiding an evil scheme.
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Post by Ernist on Jan 16, 2007 8:21:09 GMT -5
I like to think he thought of VFD fron the begining and just waited to add it maby up coming books like horse radish will say.
ERNIST
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Post by euro bateman on Dec 1, 2007 16:53:18 GMT -5
Maybe he just forgot about the wart-faced man and the other five. Or perhaps they died?
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Post by kingofvfd on Mar 22, 2008 15:42:27 GMT -5
he could be like the man with no hair but a beard,he's just a person that went evil after schism.
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Post by colette on Mar 21, 2011 16:22:44 GMT -5
Hmm... Interesting
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Post by Dante on Mar 21, 2011 17:02:10 GMT -5
What in particular do you find interesting, colette?
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Post by colette on Apr 14, 2011 7:53:37 GMT -5
The fact that there is no him inASoUE anymore. I don't think that he is a guest from TCC
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