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Post by dumbledore on Aug 6, 2005 14:06:48 GMT -5
What rule did Jacques Snicket break when he walked in the V.F.D. town? (In book 7)
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Antenora
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Post by Antenora on Aug 6, 2005 14:11:28 GMT -5
It was the rule against villains entering the city; everyone thought he was Olaf. I don't remember what number it was, though.
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Post by Dante on Aug 6, 2005 14:14:36 GMT -5
I just looked it up, and it was Rule #19,833 (no villains are allowed within the city limits). Since Jacques had one eyebrow, and a tattoo of an eye on his ankle, everybody thought that he was Count Olaf. Count Olaf is well-known to be a villain, therefore by coming into the town, he had broken the rule, and had to be burnt at the stake.
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Post by deadlight on Aug 9, 2005 14:31:42 GMT -5
Right, but he wasn't really Count Olaf, so he wasn't really a villain, so he wasn't really breaking the rules and they should have let him go.
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Post by Dante on Aug 9, 2005 14:35:43 GMT -5
Yes, but by the time the Village found out that Jacques wasn't Count Olaf, then he had been murdered by the real Count Olaf. Interestingly, that means that the people of the Village of Fowl Devotees can clear the Baudelaires of their original murder charge and reveal that Count Olaf is still alive (although they'd still face burning for inventing things and reading books, or whatever else). Unfortunately, they're highly unlikely to ever leave their village - and The Daily Punctilio wouldn't print such a story. It would mean admitting their mistakes, and that would decrease their sales.
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Post by lilmermaid987 on Aug 30, 2005 2:18:27 GMT -5
Speaking of Jacques's murder...We never find out how Olaf kills him in the first place...The method is never described, just that Jacques was DOA.
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Post by Dante on Aug 30, 2005 4:10:17 GMT -5
Olaf said that Jacques was bitten to death, so I imagine Olaf stabbed him with a very thin dagger. Jacques's wounds would have to at least slightly resemble what Olaf said he died of.
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Post by Vacuum Pot on Aug 30, 2005 6:19:16 GMT -5
He wouldn't have to have any visible wounds. He could've been poisoned or wounded on his torso. Count Olaf could just make four bite marks, wherever he was saying Sunny bit him at.
Did he actually show the bite marks to anyone? I don't think he did - perhaps they weren't even there.
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Post by Antenora on Aug 30, 2005 7:09:54 GMT -5
I think the bite marks were on Jacques' neck. Maybe Olaf cut Jacques' throat, and then made more cuts to make it seem that he'd been bitten, not unlike Monty's death.
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Post by Vacuum Pot on Aug 30, 2005 7:16:09 GMT -5
Does the Vile Village even mention Olaf showing the villagers the wound?
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Post by Antenora on Aug 30, 2005 7:19:52 GMT -5
I checked, and actually there's no reference to Olaf showing people the "bite-marks." So maybe he and Luciana killed Jacques by giving him poisoned bread-and-water.
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Post by Vacuum Pot on Aug 30, 2005 7:29:58 GMT -5
I checked, and actually there's no reference to Olaf showing people the "bite-marks." So maybe he and Luciana killed Jacques by giving him poisoned bread-and-water. That's what I thought. They could've killed him in any way they pleased. I always thought that Olaf was a little more on the gruesome side, and would murder people in as vicious a way as he could, but that might've been a little messy for their operations. Hehe, I always imagined the bite marks on his ankle - no idea why.
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Post by Brian on Aug 30, 2005 13:11:43 GMT -5
It would be hard to get bitten to death on your ankle, unless poison is used. I mean, the whole foot would have to come clean off, and then you'd have to die of blood loss. No major organs really exist down there.
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Post by Ennui on Sept 8, 2005 9:03:15 GMT -5
Personally, I doubt the villagers themselves will ever find out Olaf killed Jacques. The agents of the arsonist side of the schism all over the town will ensure it's kept quiet, and if Kit revealed the truth while passing through, she too would be in danger.
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Post by Sixteen on Sept 8, 2005 12:55:42 GMT -5
It would be hard to get bitten to death on your ankle, unless poison is used. I mean, the whole foot would have to come clean off, and then you'd have to die of blood loss. No major organs really exist down there. That's what makes it funny. The fact that the villagers and reporters would not argue with death from a bitten ankle is pure Snicket.
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