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Post by PJ on Feb 15, 2005 1:32:28 GMT -5
That is really sad. Also, I am entitled my own opinion, just as you are, even though you like a traitorous stupid freak. I would definitely say that they are not evil. The freaks are far too easily influenced and gullible to be evil. They really spend too much time feeling sorry for themselves to realize what is going on around them. Like Dash said, when they joined Olaf's troupe, they thought that they were finally being accepted. The freaks may do some evil things (like everyone does), but that does not mean that they are evil. So attempting to murder to of your comrades is not evil and something we all do? Seems things are more different in the northern hemisphere than I thought....
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Post by cillvya on Feb 15, 2005 18:27:45 GMT -5
Hey! Kevin makes the funniest remarks about his "freakish" condition, and I find it hilarious how Lemony makes ambidextrousness (sp?) such a horrible thing; I wish I was. But I agree with OrangeyTwixet: They are just too gullible and naive to be evil, the freaks don't think about what they're doing, as long as they're accepted by Olaf's troupe.
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Antenora
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Post by Antenora on Feb 15, 2005 19:54:31 GMT -5
I must agree that Kevin is hilarious in a really pathetic way. "Having no hands is better than having two equally strong hands!" he laments. Is Lemony satirizing something I'm not catching onto, or is he just being weird?
Anyway, I think the freaks are not so much evil as desparate, eager to do whatever they must to be accepted. Maybe they're "volatile" as well.
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Post by PJ on Feb 16, 2005 1:50:26 GMT -5
Their pathetic. Though I believe that only Olaf's presence is making them evil, if he weren't there, they wouldn't be. But that only means that they are too stupid to realise that they are doing bad. I hate them all. TRAITORS!!!!
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Post by Ennui on Feb 16, 2005 10:37:52 GMT -5
If you still believe that objective "good" and "evil" exist in ASOUE, then you should do some rereading and rethinking.
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Post by Dante on Feb 16, 2005 10:41:17 GMT -5
If you still believe that objective "good" and "evil" exist in ASOUE, then you should do some rereading and rethinking. There's still the man with a beard but no hair and the woman with hair but no beard to consider, though... Although seeing as Book the Twelfth is likely to feature them heavily, I think some information on them is likely.
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Post by RedElektra on Feb 16, 2005 22:12:29 GMT -5
I said no
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Post by PJ on Feb 17, 2005 6:12:07 GMT -5
If you still believe that objective "good" and "evil" exist in ASOUE, then you should do some rereading and rethinking. True, there is more nasty and nice, or stupid and intelligent. The freaks are just stupid, then. Either that or asoue is way more twisted than I could ever believe it is.
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Post by Danger on Mar 10, 2005 19:53:12 GMT -5
I think they're just liking the idea of being accepted by normal people...........but they're still going to pay...
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Post by PJ on Mar 10, 2005 22:54:29 GMT -5
.....but they're still going to pay... I like you now, pretty much solely because of that sentence.
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Post by Antenora on Mar 11, 2005 8:01:27 GMT -5
If you still believe that objective "good" and "evil" exist in ASOUE, then you should do some rereading and rethinking. I agree. Handler's writings are different from many other children's books because of that. The "good" characters are doing sinister things, and the "evil" ones show some nobility. Hence, the series is realistic from a moral perspective, albeit in hardly any other way.
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Post by GemGerl on Mar 11, 2005 13:56:51 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure they r coz they followed olaf's instuctions no matter how terrible they were
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Post by Who wants to know? on Mar 22, 2005 20:35:33 GMT -5
I dunno
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Post by Ennui on Mar 23, 2005 5:57:10 GMT -5
That's called spam.
Kevin has a weakness for histrionics that Olaf is easily able to exploit. He is, of the three, perhaps the closest to a genuine villain, with Collette the least villainous.
They were described as "ten laughing villains" in TSS. But if the much more incriminated Fernald has redeeming qualities...surely villain is a flexible term.
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Post by PJ on Mar 23, 2005 6:01:28 GMT -5
That's called spam. Kevin has a weakness for histrionics that Olaf is easily able to exploit. He is, of the three, perhaps the closest to a genuine villain, with Collette the least villainous. They were described as "ten laughing villains" in TSS. But if the much more incriminated Fernald has redeeming qualities...surely villain is a flexible term. Collette? No, Hugo is the least villaneous. At least he doesn't brag about how unfortunate he is. He's the most sensible, at least. And polite.
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