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Post by Ernist on Apr 21, 2009 8:37:13 GMT -5
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Post by Dante on Apr 21, 2009 9:07:30 GMT -5
I'm afraid you misread slightly, as the wart-faced man is indeed stated as having fled with Olaf at the end. Indeed, he's placed first in the corresponding list of Olaf's associates. It would be far less problematic if he hadn't been specified to flee, as then we could just say that he was successfully captured at the theatre and arrested off-screen. Instead, he escapes at the end of TBB, and is never mentioned again.
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Post by Ernist on Apr 22, 2009 10:03:18 GMT -5
but no one noticed what he did and several members of the troupe had no Idea of the scheme so he could have pretended to be one of them
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Post by Dante on Apr 22, 2009 11:22:29 GMT -5
Nonetheless, it's specified that the wart-faced man escaped at the end, and it doesn't specifically say that nobody saw him pull the trick with the lights - it says, I think, that everyone was laughing at something Sunny said, but that doesn't preclude them noticing the wart-faced man at any point. He was the one operating the lights earlier in the play, too.
I don't really see it as an issue. Either way, he's never mentioned again.
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Post by Ernist on Apr 23, 2009 10:06:23 GMT -5
I ment that no one noticed him shut the lights off not not noticed him all togather by the way what version of the book do you have
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Post by Dante on Apr 23, 2009 11:44:48 GMT -5
As everyone was laughing at Sunny, the wart-faced man was sneaking towards the lights. Conceivably nobody saw him. It doesn't actually say that nobody did. Someone might have seen him without being able to stop him or shout a warning in time. Besides that, he had vanished in the final scene. Consequently, he is considered to be one of Count Olaf's associates. He's not in the room. The actors who didn't know about Olaf's plot still were. Guilt by association (or in this case, by dissociation).
As for which versions of TBB I have: HarperCollins, Egmont, Rare, Special, Limited, Orphans!. Take your pick.
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Post by bryan on Oct 8, 2010 16:43:14 GMT -5
Sorry to bump this, but it was still on the first page of this section. I just wanted to say that in "Scream and run away" from the tragic treasury, when they are talking about olaf's associates, the describes "Two women with powdered-white faces, And one long nosed bald man with warts..." they might not be the same person, and i don't know if they say the bald man and the wart faced man both left, but i was just pointing it out
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Post by Dante on Oct 9, 2010 3:05:50 GMT -5
Yeah, that's an issue that's been raised before. The song seems to conflate the wart-faced man and the bald man, but in the actual text of TBB they're definitely distinct characters and are enumerated separately in the list of Olaf's associates who've fled the theatre at the end of the novel. Then he's never mentioned again. Whether this means we should conclude that the short-haired woman and the three short men who complete the ten members of Olaf's troupe were not actually aware of his villainy and so didn't need to flee the scene, I don't know.
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Post by bryan on Oct 9, 2010 9:55:35 GMT -5
Since the wart faced man turned of the lights, it's safe to assume HE was, right?
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Post by Dante on Oct 9, 2010 11:31:19 GMT -5
Yes, absolutely. If he was stunned by the revelations taking place and a little worried about the activities he'd been participating in, he wouldn't have shut off the lights and fled with the rest of the troupe.
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