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Post by Emma “Emmz” Squalor on Mar 12, 2011 10:51:26 GMT -5
Thank you, Quags, I'm glad you like them. And we can definitely do some collabs together. In our RPG, I think Jerome was going to take the bus to Olaf's house to pick up Esme for their date. Olaf is beating on her, or is about to, and Jerome sees an opportunity to push past his fear of arguing. After that, he and Esme bolt it back to Doc's house where he and the twins are. As for Doc's time travel experiment, I think it would be a good idea if we cover the group traveling to the future first. (Yes, I remember us discussing a while back that the kids were going to meet their adult counterparts, as well as their future children). I also think it would be nice to save Marty's and Jerome's missions for last, since I feel it would make for a great finale.
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Post by Very Funky Disco on Mar 12, 2011 11:14:13 GMT -5
Okay, those ideas all sound good. I think the Baudelaires (and maybe the Quagmires) should make an appearance. I like the idea of the Baudelaires still having their parents, even if they no longer have their mansion.
Do you think Jerome and Esme should maybe have more children. Emma should probably still exist - but, in this universe, Esme probably doesn't even meet Carmelita. Unless, of course, you have another idea.
I just realized that Sunny would be close to the same age as Marty Jr and Alex (Artie's future son). Although, if I remember correctly, I think you had Sunny born in early 1999 - and the events (normally) take place latter that year. So I guess Sunny would be about a half a year younger than Marty Jr and Alex. I like the idea of them being friends, even if Sunny doesn't necessarily hook up with either boy. Marlene could be a friend, too.
If the events don't take place. Dewey and Kit will probably live to see Beatrice grow up. We should maybe give her another name, in this universe.
Oh, yeah, what about the future technology? I'm sure you remember the 2015 segment from BTTF2, where they have hoverboards and all that - and ASOUE is, of course, a sort of alternate retro universe. In the BTTF Universe, I had Doc be responsible for all the future technology in 2015 - or, at least, he got the ball rolling. And Doc exists in this universe. Do you have any ideas?
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Post by Emma “Emmz” Squalor on Mar 12, 2011 13:15:05 GMT -5
Thank you, I'm glad my ideas sound good to you. And yes, both the Baudelaires and the Quagmires should definitely be present in our RP. It would stretch the story out a bit, but that's a good thing. Since the Baudelaires' mansion is no longer standing, perhaps the Quagmires invited them to stay with them? That would depend on how successful Olaf was in his plot to destroy the Quagmires' home, I suppose, but I think we could make it work, if you're interested in going with that idea. And yes! Jerome and Esme should ABSOLUTELY have more children! I actually gave them a son in The Sims 3 named Seymour after J.D. Salinger's character, Seymour Glass, and, coincidentally, happens to be an idea suggested by Freebird. So we can introduce Seymour Squalor into the RP at some point. Perhaps he and Emma can even befriend Bertrand Squalor and Beatrice Baudelaire II. I remember us discussing the idea of Doc, the twins, Esme and Jerome traveling into the future at the time when Carmelita was their age and meeting her. I'd still like to go with that idea, if you're interested. Yes, Sunny was born around early 1999/late 1998, but there's no reason she still couldn't be friends with Marty Jr. and Alex (I like that idea, too). The same goes for Marlene. I really enjoy writing about kids, so these will be fun scenes to cover. I love your suggestion of Dewey and Kit seeing Beatrice grow up (I did something similar when I wrote A Twisted Turn of Events - about half of which took place on the island - and Kit was alive, since Olaf never reached the island and exposed everyone to the Medusoid Mycelium). And yes, some of your female ASoUE OCs who are deceased? Perhaps we could use one of their names as a substitute for Beatrice's. Oh, no, I'll never forget the hoverboards of BTTF2 (I wanted one when I was a kid, LOL)! Doc being the creative genius behind the future technology is a great idea, and is yet another detail that ties in perfectly with the canon. As for ideas, what if we have Doc and the kids cross paths with a younger Olaf at some point? He would cause all sorts of havoc, of course, but that which our band of heroes would be sure to outsmart.
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Post by Very Funky Disco on Mar 12, 2011 13:35:05 GMT -5
Those all sound like good ideas. How about we use Emily as a substitute name for Beatrice.
I like the idea of the Baudelaires moving in with the Quagmire (and I have to remember that these are your portrayals of them). If we have them meet up when Carmelita is their age, I forgot what age you had her be in relation to the Baudelaires. I guess it would be somewhere around the year 2005, so we can feature the kids a lot.
Doc and the kids crossing paths with a younger Olaf is also a good idea. Having them change history would probably confuse things a little too much, though.
I am thinking of having Marty become a rock star in this universe. Maybe, instead of staying in Hill Valley like he normally does, he and Alex move to San Francisco. That way, we would feature a good portion of both the BTTF cast and the ASOUE cast. I guess Marty and Artie would both become fairly active in the VFD. Maybe they learn about the VFD on their trip to the future.
So, in your universe, what year does the schism occur?
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Post by Emma “Emmz” Squalor on Mar 12, 2011 17:40:44 GMT -5
Emily works perfectly as a substitute for Beatrice!
Thanks, I'm glad you like the idea of the Quagmires opening up their home to the Baudelaires. (Since we'll be using my versions of the Quagmires, this will give me the opportunity to explore their backgrounds a bit more, since I've only ever written them as minor characters.) In my ficverse, Carmelita is about ten months younger than Klaus.
Thanks, I'm happy you like my suggesion for the kids running into a younger Olaf. Yes, having them change history is something to avoid, I think (I remember in BTTF2 that that was something Doc firmly dissuaded Marty from doing).
Marty growing up to be a rock star is a great idea. Also, seeing him achieve his dream would probably provide Jerome with the strength he needed to become a pastry chef (I'll have to remind myself to add that in, once we start closing in on the RP's finale). I like your idea of Marty and Artie moving to San Francisco - they could live near Esme and Jerome! Having the twins receive an education in V.F.D. during their journey to the future is a neat idea. I think, at this point, the only ones who know of its existence are Esme and Olaf. In this universe, is Doc associated with V.F.D. as well?
*Edit*
The schism occurs in 1987. Sorry I forgot to include that when I first posted. ^^'
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Post by Very Funky Disco on Mar 12, 2011 17:52:57 GMT -5
Yes, Doc does. That's the one thing I decided to keep the same with my other ASOUE universe. Young Emmett Brown was recruited into the VFD at the age of 12.
This is a very interesting universe. I think Doc and Marty don't normally exist in your universe - and, if I'm not mistaken, I think the Back to the Future trilogy exists in your universe. In this universe, Mind Warped replaces Back to the Future. And, in my normal BTTF Universes, the Baudelaires and Quagmires don't exist. And, on top of everything, it's your version of the Baudelaires and Quagmires that exist in this universe. It's probably just as well - since, according to how I have things set up, it'd be hard for Marty McFly to coexist in a universe with my version of the Quagmires.
Now, where were we in the role play? I think they were planning to visit Esme.
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Post by Emma “Emmz” Squalor on Mar 12, 2011 18:04:19 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought there was a good chance that Doc belongs to V.F.D. in this universe.
And I agree - it is very interesting, and fun to explore and expand upon. And yes, the Back to the Future movies do exist in my universe (I remember mentioning in an interview I did with Esme once that she watched the first movie, I think it was, with her father). And I remember Mind Warped, which is an awesome title, btw (I always find it difficult to come up with titles for things such as books and movies in my stories). As difficult as it would be for Marty and your version of the Quagmires to coexist, it would be amusing to say the least. As a matter of fact, I recall one of your early stories featured a scene where they met.
In our RP, I think we were preparing to close the diner scene, and then skip ahead the next day to when Jerome gives his oral report about cupcakes.
*Edit*
I'm sorry for yet another edit. XD But I just checked our RP, and it's your turn to post, so I just wanted to say we can continue it at any time you'd like.
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Post by Very Funky Disco on Mar 12, 2011 18:22:01 GMT -5
Oh, okay - although, I think we decided to save the missions for last. But if you really want Jerome to do his report next, we can.
In this universe, both George and Lorraine are also in the VFD - and Lorraine was recruited in the same way as her counterpart (Mrs. Quagmire) was in my other ASOUE Universe.
If Marty from my BTTF Universe ends up visiting the ASOUE Universe, and chooses to stay - or vice versa with the Quagmires - then they could all coexist. They wouldn't be able to naturally co-exist, though - unless I fudge a bit with the family trees.
Of course, Rupert Quagmire and Reginald Squalor wouldn't exist in this universe. But, maybe we go further back enough, their ancestors might exist. Even if we have to go back 500 years, which I don't think either of us plan to do. Did you ever think of how the VFD was formed? I didn't - but they, apparently, existed for centuries. Long enough for it to have spawned Village of Fowl Devotees, at least.
Why do you suppose the Village of Fowl Devotees decided to settle in the west? My theory is that they just wanted to be the first Europeans to settle that far.
At any rate, we should stick to having Doc's first time travel experiment be on October 26 - just like in the movie. It'll be a bit of a skip, I think - so we maybe could do Jerome's oral report, next.
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Post by Emma “Emmz” Squalor on Mar 13, 2011 15:17:31 GMT -5
I wrote a reply to you earlier, but didn't have a chance to post it before I left to get lunch and then went out. So, without further delay, here it is...
Yes, we did agree to save the mission for last, didn't we? I don't know why that slipped my mind. ^^' I was going to agree that we go ahead with our original plan, before I noticed you'd posted in the RP. I haven't read your post yet, but whatever you've written I'm sure we can work from.
Since George and Lorraine are members of V.F.D. in this universe, we should probably introduce them eventually. It will come as quite a shock to Marty and Artie, too, I'm sure, to discover such a vital secret about their parents. Well, unless they already know about V.F.D. from Doc.
Reworking the family trees to allow for Marty and the Quagmires to coexist together in a single universe would definitely work, if you'd like to do that. This is both AU and crossover, after all, and so we can do pretty much anything we want and still have it make sense. How did you explain their meeting in your fanfic?
Going back five-hundred years would get a bit complicated, yes. I like the idea of introducing the ancestors of Rupert Quagmire and Reginald Squalor, though. Perhaps one or both of them would even be the original owner(s) of the Clock Tower in BTTF, or something like that.
I've never given much thought to how V.F.D. was formed, aside from Olaf's parents being the ones who founded it; but I
don't think I ever gave a specific reason for their motives. Looking at my timeline just now, I never even mentioned a date in which V.F.D. came into existence. Olaf's parents were both born in 1928, and so it had to be sometime during the late 1940's or early 1950's. Still, I prefer your idea of the organization being around for centuries, since it connects better to the canon than my idea.
I like your suggestion as to why the Village of Fowl Devotees chose to stay in the west. I actually never gave any thought to the reason behind it, other than they had a desire for their own private society without any outside influences, and the area seemed like a really secluded place.
Sure, we can have Doc and the kids test his time machine on October 26th next. Even though it's a bit of a skip, it'll help the story to move a little more swiftly along (they've been at the diner going on two years now, LOL) so that'll be good.
And yes, we can cover Jerome's oral report in the following scenes.
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Post by Very Funky Disco on Mar 13, 2011 15:55:08 GMT -5
Okay, those all sound good.
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Post by Emma “Emmz” Squalor on Mar 13, 2011 16:46:22 GMT -5
Awesome. I just posted in our RP, btw, and hope it's all right. If for any reason it's not, just PM me, and I'll fix it right up.
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Post by Seymour Glass on Mar 28, 2011 18:58:00 GMT -5
A comparison of the years everyone's schism began. I'm going by using four years after the birth of Kit and the Denouement triplets birth years in the timelines.
LSWannabe: 1906 Me: 1941 Very Funky Disco: 1948 Emma Squalor: 1971 Violet Marie: 1978
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Post by colette on Apr 9, 2011 6:44:15 GMT -5
In my ficverse Kit was born on February of 1978 and the schism was at the end of 1981.
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Post by counto on Oct 5, 2020 3:25:43 GMT -5
My ASOUE Timeline
1690 - The Village of Fowl Devotees is founded
1898 - Ishmael is born
1923 - Hal is born
1933 - Gregor Anwhistle is born 1935 - Josephine Anwhistle is born, Isaac "Ike" Anwhistle is born
1942 - Monty Montgomery is born, Gustav Sebald is born 1945 - Count Olaf is born
1948 - Mrs Bass and Mr Remora start teaching at Prufrock Prep 1949 - Jerome Squalor is born, Georgina Orwell is born 1950 - Esme Squalor is born, The Denouement Triplets (Frank, Ernest and Dewey) are born January 12th, 1951 - Kit and Jacques Snicket are born 1952 - Beatrice and Bertrand Baudelaire are born, Duchess R is born, Captain Widdershins is born 1953 - Lemony Snicket is born, Hector is born
1955 - The Schism occurs, Monty starts studying herpetology
1963 - Fernald Widdershins is born
1965 - ATWQ takes place 1966 - THOTS takes place 1967 - Lemony re-joins VFD
1971 - Lemony, R, Jacques and Geraldine work at the Daily Punctilio
1975 - Lemony, Beatrice, R and Jerome hike up Mortmain Mountains 1976 - R's mother dies, making her the Duchess of Winnipeg 1977 - Olaf's parents are murdered 1978 - Lemony frames Lemony for multiple arsons, Beatrice writes My Silence Knot
1980 - Fiona Widdershins is born 1981 - Violet Baudelaire is born 1982 - The Quagmire Triplets (Isadora, Duncan and Quigley) are born 1983 - Klaus Baudelaire is born, Carmelita Spats is born 1987 - Edgar Poe is born 1989 - Albert Poe is born
1994 - Sunny Baudelaire is born 1995 - ASOUE takes place 1996 - Beatrice Baudelaire II is born 1997 - The Baudelaire Orphans leave the Island
2006 - Beatrice II meets her uncle Lemony
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Post by Marlowe on Oct 5, 2020 13:29:34 GMT -5
19 B.C.E.? A little too primitive an era for ASoUE to be set during, no?
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