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Post by J-Bird on Aug 11, 2015 22:42:11 GMT -5
I dislike the term. Too much of an Olaf-ish connotation. What about naïve, novice, or Neophytic? Semi-redundant, but I like their sounds better than 'nasty'.
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Post by soufflé on Aug 11, 2015 23:32:41 GMT -5
Well "corrupt" doesn't sound so great but I'm not complaining Most of them are supposed to sounds bad that's pretty much the point
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Aug 12, 2015 1:09:53 GMT -5
but sophie you are corrupt
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Post by Dante on Aug 12, 2015 1:46:04 GMT -5
I can see that there might be an argument that "Nasty Newcomer" in particular is a bit unwelcoming for people who aren't used to the titles as they are, but on the other hand, nobody's ever complained about it before. "Naive Newcomer" would seem like an acceptable replacement, but only if there's wider agreement with altering it. It's worth bearing in mind that nobody is a Nasty Newcomer for very long, though (apart from the people who register and then never post). (In case it comes in handy, the full title list can be found here.) Edit: It's since been pointed out to me that there is evidence that the first title may once have been "Naive Neophyte."
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Post by J-Bird on Aug 12, 2015 6:49:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the feedback. I've graduated in three days, so I see what Dante means, but it doesn't seem welcoming.
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Post by gliquey on Aug 15, 2015 14:58:56 GMT -5
"Nasty" may not be a great choice for newcomers who aren't familiar with the system, but I think most people will understand the alliteration is keeping with the theme of Snicket's works and with the forum itself. However, "naive" (or "naïve", if you're fond of diaereses) may perhaps be a viable alternative. "Novice" and "Neophytic" are, as you say, tautological and I can't think of any good "n" words.
Or we could abandon "newcomers" too; since most of the titles seem to correspond with a book (e.g. 12 stars = Corrupt Concierge, a reference to book 12 [The Penultimate Peril]), maybe something to do with The Bad Beginning would work better? I can't think of any good ideas off the top of my head, though.
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Post by Hermes on Aug 15, 2015 15:12:29 GMT -5
I think one might argue that 'naive' is worse than 'nasty', because there's more chance of people thinking it's meant seriously.
To echo the book, 'Beginner' would be the obvious noun, but I'm finding it hard to think of an adjective. Clearly not 'Bad'; and the only other one that occurs to me is 'Boring', which would not be much better.
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Post by gliquey on Aug 15, 2015 15:20:08 GMT -5
'Burdened' was my first thought (although it's just occurred to me that "Burdensome Books" is very similar). 'Bothered' was my second. After a few Google searches, I found 'Beastly' and 'Baneful', although the former might be a bit rude and the latter is perhaps a bit obscure.
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Post by Dante on Aug 15, 2015 15:49:20 GMT -5
Bedevilled? A bit much, perhaps.
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Post by bandit on Aug 15, 2015 17:00:31 GMT -5
buttfaced beginner
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Post by Esmé's meme is meh on Aug 15, 2015 17:21:49 GMT -5
When I registered I found the "Nasty Newcomer" thing funny, I think that when you come to a ASOUE forum you get right away it is supposed to be humorous, not offensive.
I suggest Boiled Beginner as a replacement.
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Post by Cafe SalMONAlla on Aug 15, 2015 21:44:49 GMT -5
Broiled?
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Post by Christmas Chief on Aug 15, 2015 22:09:10 GMT -5
Bombinating?
Or: baffled, bewildered, befuddled, batty, briny, blithe?
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Post by Dante on Aug 16, 2015 10:54:38 GMT -5
"Bewildered Beginner" is probably my favourite; the way the vowels line up gives it a nice rhythm, and it's also going to be a reasonably accurate description. But on the other hand, I'm not necessarily sure the case has yet been made for substituting the present title; of course, there can be no doing so until there is a truly compelling replacement lined up.
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Post by J-Bird on Aug 16, 2015 21:24:51 GMT -5
When I registered I found the "Nasty Newcomer" thing funny, I think that when you come to a ASOUE forum you get right away it is supposed to be humorous, not offensive. I suggest Boiled Beginner as a replacement. It might be a completely irrelevant title, but YES!
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