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Post by strickensnicketer on Jul 25, 2016 21:39:30 GMT -5
This has been bothering me for years, we know that Olaf and Esmé murdered Jacques-but the thing that troubles me is with what. I doubt he was bitten to death, so what was the actual cause. A harpoon would have been to noticeable, since it is said he looked as if he were asleep and being tucked in for a nap while being covered by a white sheet. I suppose cause of death isn't very important, but I'd like to hear other people's opinions on the matter.
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Post by Dante on Jul 26, 2016 2:30:40 GMT -5
It's true that the book doesn't appear to state a cause of death, though we can presume that he was indeed not bitten to death - though this idea does conceivably suggest a return to the method of Uncle Monty's murder, the use of a poisonous injection to simulate teeth marks. Given that no other visible wounds on Jacques's body are mentioned, or indeed seen in the brief glimpse we have of his corpse, I would suggest this to be the case. ...Although, if for some reason we wanted to take Officer Luciana at her word, for of course she is not revealed as Esmé until the end of the book, we could suggest that the poison was actually in the bread and water served to Jacques, and so he was indeed killed while the prison was locked up tight with nobody in it.
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Post by gliquey on Jul 26, 2016 12:14:51 GMT -5
It's a very good question, but unfortunately there's not much we can do but make wild speculation. The cause of death didn't mutilate the body and I agree that a harpoon might have been noticeable to the Council of Elders members who covered Jacques in a sheet (and the rest of the villagers who saw the body before it was covered). Strangulation would be my guess, but they could have done almost anything to him - they could have taken him to Fowl Fountain and drowned him. I suppose it's odd that his death is, well not glossed over but not particularly focused on either, considering the narrator is Jacques' brother, but maybe it's still something Lemony doesn't wish to discuss in depth, or he feels it's not pertinent to the story. It's not like it's completely overlooked, but then again, we don't even get a cause of death.
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Post by lorelai on Aug 1, 2016 14:26:08 GMT -5
I always put his murder down to an injection, as Dante said. Considering that Jacques spent a lot of 'time in Monty's house, there's a sort of ironic cruelty in that which feels very in keeping with both the lives of the Snickets, and the world of the books.
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Post by Dante on Aug 2, 2016 2:39:08 GMT -5
That parallel helps to seal it for me. Good thinking.
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Post by Teleram on Aug 3, 2016 1:57:05 GMT -5
I did
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Post by colette on Jun 22, 2018 7:45:17 GMT -5
I always suspected injection too.
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Post by the panopticountolaf on Jun 30, 2018 14:23:29 GMT -5
A thought I had while watching TVV part 1 was that in the book, Olaf accuses Sunny of commiting the actual murder, so maybe Olaf murdered Jacques with the pickaxe and then pretended they were a faked Sunny-bite? The problem with that, though, is that they don't say Sunny commited the murder in the Netflix show (though this may be my memory failing me) so the explanation kind of falls flat.
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