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Post by Charlie on Mar 23, 2017 23:55:44 GMT -5
Hey, I don't have an opinion on this yet, can you guys pls all squabble over this so I can figure out my stance.
I like to think I'm opposed to the death penalty bc it is obvi state sanctioned murder.
But when I watch TV shows and think about it and stuff, fighting crime works so much better and logically if one just kills the bad guy. Like if batman just shot the joker BAM there goes hundreds of unnecessary deaths.
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Post by soufflé on Mar 24, 2017 0:51:15 GMT -5
Charles Fried puts it well:
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Post by soufflé on Mar 24, 2017 0:54:39 GMT -5
then the typical counterargument goes:
"butbutbut it costs money to put people in prison for life !!!!!!!!! wah wah" (the financial aspect of prisons and the american justice system is a whole other can of worms)
to which i say...
hahahah well if you stopped putting people away for nonviolent drug-related crimes you'd have a lot more $$$ and space for the murderers and rapists!
i do think assisted suicide should be an option for people who get life sentences tho
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Post by soufflé on Mar 24, 2017 1:06:09 GMT -5
also your batman example doesnt rly work because that isnt capital punishment its just dude killing other (criminal) dude but i see your point
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Post by Reba on Mar 24, 2017 1:06:17 GMT -5
batman shooting the joker in a tussle is just an act of self defense, such that american coppers do in all 50 states, even the ones with no death penalty. the thing we're talking about usually requires the criminal to have already been securely caught, gone through extensive trial, languished in prison for several decades, then got poison put in his veins, which solves absolutely nothing.
most prison systems strip you of your rights enough without actually killing you, so unless you're willie horton or you have a special batman bomb to blow out of prison and commit more murders, the death penalty doesn't make anyone safer, it's just a gratuitous sadistic piece of the "make an example of em" mentality.
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Post by Isadora Is a Door on Mar 24, 2017 4:27:10 GMT -5
oh no, im agreeing with bear again.
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