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Post by Charlie on May 21, 2017 0:32:36 GMT -5
Do ya reckon having a racial preference when dating is racist?
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Post by A comet crashing into Earth on May 21, 2017 2:45:16 GMT -5
The very first thing I thought was that this would be a thread about the love life of racecar drivers.
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Post by Seymour Glass on May 21, 2017 3:10:45 GMT -5
No.
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Post by Charlie on May 21, 2017 3:46:24 GMT -5
I reckon it is! It seems like a reduction of identity to race when there is so much more to people! What do you guys reckon?
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Post by BSam on May 21, 2017 5:57:14 GMT -5
i feel there's a difference to having a 'type' to total exclusion of people because of race or whatev.
this is a tricky one howev
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Post by Reba on May 21, 2017 13:05:13 GMT -5
is it sexist to have a gender preference when dating?
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Post by BSam on May 21, 2017 13:10:45 GMT -5
yes
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on May 21, 2017 13:16:58 GMT -5
is it sexist to have a gender preference when dating? ^Not the same thing, since you can only procreate with the opposite sex, which is what we're programmed to do; Race does not play into that. Your comparison is, however, relevant in so far, that we cannot help who we're attracted to. Completely excluding anyone on the sole grounds of how they look, however, might indicate that you're a shallow person to some extent. So, charlie's original question seems ridiculous when it comes to "preference" (the answer is no - having preferences of any kind is perfectly normal). On the other hand, it would be racist to completely exclude one or more race/s from dating because you think they all share some character traits.
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Post by Seymour Glass on May 21, 2017 13:27:19 GMT -5
I reckon it is! It seems like a reduction of identity to race when there is so much more to people! What do you guys reckon? I don't think so. Attraction is not a choice.
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Post by Reba on May 21, 2017 14:40:22 GMT -5
is it sexist to have a gender preference when dating? ^Not the same thing, since you can only procreate with the opposite sex, which is what we're programmed to do; Race does not play into that. Your comparison is, however, relevant in so far, that we cannot help who we're attracted to. Completely excluding anyone on the sole grounds of how they look, however, might indicate that you're a shallow person to some extent. So, the original question seems ridiculous when it comes to "preference" (the answer is no - having preferences of any kind is perfectly normal). On the other hand, it would be racist to completely exclude one or more race/s from dating, if you think they all share some character traits. gay men completely exclude all women from their dating options on the grounds that they are not attracted to women. i'm sure some people are equally certain that they feel no sexual attraction to a given race. however, some people don't necessarily date people that they find attractive. in that case, any physical prerequisites for dating could be considered shallow.
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on May 21, 2017 15:44:37 GMT -5
gay men completely exclude all women from their dating options on the grounds that they are not attracted to women. Dude, read what you quote. May I refer to: ^Not the same thing, since you can only procreate with the opposite sex, which is what we're programmed to do; Race does not play into that. People are not programmed by nature to procreate (or not procreate) with a certain race. There are studies, however, that people are attracted to ppl who resemble them; the key, here, is that this only creates a preference. however, some people don't necessarily date people that they find attractive. in that case, any physical prerequisites for dating could be considered shallow. I think you meant " unattractive" in the first sentence? I already said that "having preferences is perfectly normal", and imo everyone is shallow to some extent.
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Post by Reba on May 21, 2017 16:40:06 GMT -5
no, i meant attractive. some people date others with no regard to their physical appearance, or at least they are willing to date someone even if they don't find them attractive.
are you trying to say homosexuality is merely a preference for the same sex, rather than an exclusive attraction?
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on May 21, 2017 19:15:05 GMT -5
if you meant attractive, i'm having trouble understanding how their physical prerequisites for dating would be shallow?
no, it was you who started talking about "gender preferences when dating". i'm not going to start talking about what makes people homosexual, since that topic is still not well understood/is still debated over (nurture vs nature, etc). i think you can still get my point without that, though. EDIT: Plus, it's ridiculous for you to claim that being attracted to only one race and/or unattracted to any race would be a sexual orientation like homosexuality; There's no scientific basis in that whatsoever.
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Post by Reba on May 21, 2017 19:40:53 GMT -5
"some people don't necessarily date people that they find attractive [some people disregard physical appearance when they decide to date someone]. in that case [because of people like that], any physical prerequisites for dating [not just race, but anything physical that anyone seeks out in someone else] could be considered shallow." so, you could argue that all physical preferences are offensive to someone in the world population, because everyone should be theoretically dateable no matter what they look like.
also, i only said "gender preferences" because i was mirroring the words charlie used in the OP. my point was that, like a person's sex, there are physical characteristics that are sometimes ingrained in what makes one person attractive to someone else, rather than just being a positive quirk or kink.
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Post by Reba on May 21, 2017 19:50:36 GMT -5
here's a relevant quote that may or may not be racist. I think it's possible to like a black person, but still think that the black doesn't look good on them.
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