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Post by lemonmeringue on Oct 7, 2018 12:22:45 GMT -5
The sugar bowl thing is absolutely ridiculous. That can't be true.
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Oct 7, 2018 12:26:38 GMT -5
The sugar bowl thing is absolutely ridiculous. That can't be true. If you look at some of his other tweets, you'll see the guy behind the twitter account often likes to mix actual information with incredibly silly jokes, much like the actual podcast. The early 2019 release date is the only one that seems plausible (at least to Joe Tracz, he might be wrong for all we know) largely because it's the only one not written as a joke. |
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Post by veryfakedonkey on Oct 7, 2018 12:45:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I've listened to the podcast before. They have fan theories that they don't actually think are true, but like to think are true. I bet they asked him and he said nothing and it was a funny moment so it was put in the tweet.
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Post by lemonmeringue on Oct 7, 2018 13:02:23 GMT -5
Maybe the release date was another joke? Perhaps it was listed with the other jokes, to show that it's one, too?
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Post by Strangely on Oct 7, 2018 13:10:23 GMT -5
I don't buy it. We've had so many other sources say November. We know the post production is done (and has been), plus there's the release of the spoiler filled tie-in book in just a few weeks. I can't see them delaying the release of the season several months more, it doesn't make sense. Surely they would have at least delayed the book release if the season got pushed back. Edit: After looking up who they're interviewing, I think that date is even more dubious. I doubt the story editor of the show would know when it's getting released. I'm not sure why you think that the show's story editor and on-set rewrite person is a less credible source of information on the production side of things than the actors (the only people who have offered a November release date). If anything, the odds should be weighted more in his favour. But honestly, I think its too premature to have an opinion on the release date yet, especially since we haven't had confirmation that season 3's post-production has finished yet, only that it's in the process of wrapping up. The final release date is down to Netflix, and they can be quite mercurial. The story editor isn't required to promote the show like the actors are. His job has come to a close. Many of the actors, on the other hand, have to return to promote the show upon release. This would mean that Netflix likely would have given them some time frame to expect the release so that they can make themselves available for whatever promotional events Netflix has planned. So I don't think it's unreasonable to think that the actors might have a better idea of when the release will be. It's been two and a half weeks since Barry Sonnenfeld announced they were wrapping up post production, he permanently said good-bye to the Hollywood ASOUE office. Since then he's been travelling and is now in Italy. I tend to think if he's on vacation, that gives the definite impression that the show has wrapped post production. Unless of course, we are to believe that after several years of meticulous direction and oversight he's decided not to oversee the finishing touches of the largest project he's ever undertaken and has instead opted for an extended vacation abroad. If there's any part of post-production unfinished, it's minimal and not something that would take three months to complete. |
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Oct 7, 2018 13:26:25 GMT -5
I'm not sure why you think that the show's story editor and on-set rewrite person is a less credible source of information on the production side of things than the actors (the only people who have offered a November release date). If anything, the odds should be weighted more in his favour. But honestly, I think its too premature to have an opinion on the release date yet, especially since we haven't had confirmation that season 3's post-production has finished yet, only that it's in the process of wrapping up. The final release date is down to Netflix, and they can be quite mercurial. The story editor isn't required to promote the show like the actors are. His job has come to a close. Many of the actors, on the other hand, have to return to promote the show upon release. This would mean that Netflix likely would have given them some time frame to expect the release so that they can make themselves available for whatever promotional events Netflix has planned. So I don't think it's unreasonable to think that the actors might have a better idea of when the release will be. It's been two and a half weeks since Barry Sonnenfeld announced they were wrapping up post production, he permanently said good-bye to the Hollywood ASOUE office. Since then he's been travelling and is now in Italy. I tend to think if he's on vacation, that gives the definite impression that the show has wrapped post production. Unless of course, we are to believe that after several years of meticulous direction and oversight he's decided not to oversee the finishing touches of the largest project he's ever undertaken and has instead opted for an extended vacation abroad. If there's any part of post-production unfinished, it's minimal and not something that would take three months to complete. Just because a show's post-production is finished (for all intents and purposes) doesn't mean it automatically has to be released. Plenty of movies/tv shows have long gaps between the end of post-production and the day they actually come out. As I -and many other people on the forum- have said before, Netflix can be very weird with their program scheduling, and after all the final decision is theirs. They could release it in three weeks, they could release it in three years. Netflix offers a lot of freedom to the people who make their properties, but at the end of the day, they are still the ones who get to choose how to market/distribute those properties. :Edit: What makes this radio silence all the more frustrating is that there are certain episodes of season 3 that likely wrapped their post-production months ago. Given that for this season, the post-production process started while they were still filming instead of afterwards. For example, I would bet good money that TSS has been finished (for all intents and purposes) since June/August, which just makes me madder about the fact that they still haven't even done the bare minimum and given us an official release date. |
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Post by Strangely on Oct 7, 2018 13:49:14 GMT -5
I never said it had to release just because it's finished, that's not anywhere near what I was talking about. You had said we had no confirmation that post production had wrapped, I disagreed and stated that Sonnenfeld's post acted as confirmation, and that his recent travels reinforce that for me. If you don't consider that confirmation, then that's fine, I just wanted to state why I viewed it as such. That was all I meant by it, I made no statement that this meant it had to be released soon.
And it's true that Netflix is very unpredictable about it's release schedule, but it probably is worth pointing out that Netflix did release the previous two seasons shortly after post production ended. Now that doesn't mean that'll happen again, but the possibility is still there.
Really the main point of all my posts is that we likely shouldn't take a podcast as gospel about the release date.
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Oct 7, 2018 15:34:58 GMT -5
I never said it had to release just because it's finished, that's not anywhere near what I was talking about. You had said we had no confirmation that post production had wrapped, I disagreed and stated that Sonnenfeld's post acted as confirmation, and that his recent travels reinforce that for me. If you don't consider that confirmation, then that's fine, I just wanted to state why I viewed it as such. That was all I meant by it, I made no statement that this meant it had to be released soon. And it's true that Netflix is very unpredictable about it's release schedule, but it probably is worth pointing out that Netflix did release the previous two seasons shortly after post production ended. Now that doesn't mean that'll happen again, but the possibility is still there. Really the main point of all my posts is that we likely shouldn't take a podcast as gospel about the release date. Confirmation is confirmation, it has not been actively confirmed therefore there is no confirmation. We can reasonably infer that it has been completed (for all intents and purposes) based on the evidence you provided, but that's still not actual confirmation, but now we're just pointlessly arguing the semantics of something we both generally agree on. At any rate, this season will have had the most amount of post-production compared the previous two, and considering the step up in quality from 1 to 2, I'm looking forward to seeing how they pull it all off. Water effects seemed to be quite a problem with season 1 (mostly TWW), so hopefully, we'll be seeing some improvement there, given how much of this season takes place around/in large bodies of water. |
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Post by kitsnickers on Oct 7, 2018 16:24:02 GMT -5
i just hope they release the new season this year I don’t really want to wait till 2019...
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Post by Violent BUN Fortuna on Oct 7, 2018 16:55:23 GMT -5
i just hope they release the new season this year I don’t really want to wait till 2019... I feel like you've just spoken for everyone here. I'm really, really hoping this podcast had false information because after so long of expecting a November release, it would be such a disappointment to have to wait until next year, especially with TIHOSO coming out so soon. Waiting a couple of extra months for the show would be hard enough: doing that while also resisting the temptation to read TIHOSO would be nigh on impossible. |
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Post by veryfakedonkey on Oct 7, 2018 17:57:51 GMT -5
Listening to the podcast now, seems like either Sir or Charles won't make it into TPP. Whichever one was in Fiji (I think) for filming. Also it really does seem to be 2019  Edit: Joe reads 667. |
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Oct 7, 2018 18:38:20 GMT -5
Listening to the podcast now, seems like either Sir or Charles won't make it into TPP. Whichever one was in Fiji (I think) for filming. Also it really does seem to be 2019 Edit: Joe reads 667. That makes sense, I follow Rhys Darby (Charles) on Instagram, and it seems like he's been too busy filming his show Stranded to fly up to Vancouver to shoot TPP. :Edit: Here's a link to the actual podcast if anyone wants it. www.futurehorsepod.com/tracz/ |
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Oct 7, 2018 21:01:28 GMT -5
After a quick listen to the podcast, here are some things of note (keep in mind the podcast was recorded just a couple of days ago):
The End is longer than the average episode but less than two hours long.
Elements from Daniel Handler's original sequel script made it into seasons 2 and 3 including a book V.F.D. is trying to get to the Baudelaires and Olivia Caliban's backstory.
Not all the actors could make it back for TPP, in fact there was a [Sir/Charles?] scene that had to be cut out because one of the actors couldn’t make it due to a typhoon in Fiji [likely Rhys Darby as he's been filming a show there] but one of the actors [Don Johnson?] still has a scene.
There is an added storyline in season 3 that wasn’t present in the books much like seasons one and two.
The reason the henchpeople don’t get killed off in season 2 is that Daniel Handler and the writers wanted Olaf to be at his highest moment at the end of TCC and the beginning of TSS and part of that involved his henchpeople not being killed off one by one.
There will be a lot of references to ATWQ in season 3.
Joe Tracz mentions that season 3’s post-production is beginning to wrap up (but hasn't finished yet) and that he has recently been shown edits of the last episodes.
He confirms that Season 3 will "definitely" be released in 2019 and when the fact that some of the show's actors have mentioned a November release date comes up, he laughs and says that one of the main takeaways of ASOUE is that you can’t always trust actors.
The tie-in book was always meant to come out before season 3 and because of that, it teases season 3 without spoiling everything.
The tie-in book contains a secret code which people should wait to crack until after they watch the third season.
Joe Tracz hopes that the End will make people cry.
TPP contains cinematic equivalents to a lot of the stylistic tricks used in the book, much like the adapted version of the Sebald code as seen in the show's versions of TRR and TCC.
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Post by Strangely on Oct 7, 2018 21:37:54 GMT -5
It's interesting that the plotline with the VFD book was from the second movie. I like the way the second movie would have handled TMM too, sounded hilarious (It's kind of how I thought it would be handled, with the way the stories were truncated in the first movie there was just no way they'd waste too much time on the weakest book in the series for the second outing). I hope that script leaks one day, it sounds very intriguing. While I still hope he's wrong about the 2019 release date, he's probably right. He seems really in the know, I was wrong about how much involvement he had in the post production of the show. I had assumed that he had just been involved in the pre-production and on set writing and scripting, I definitely underestimated his involvement in the post-production. My bad, live and learn I guess. Sorry gothicarchiesfan, you were right on the money on that one. Based on what he says, it seems like season 3 is pretty much finished (Or at least, whatever is left to do is pretty minor). It does make me wonder what the logic for the 2019 release is? Too, I wonder if the November date may have been true at one point and then changed (hence why we had a couple of actors repeating it). It's interesting that ATWQ is referenced more, definitely makes it seem like eventually that might get adapted too. I hope it does, the Netflix/Snicket universe definitely needs to continue on. |
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Post by deathtentaclesandpip on Oct 7, 2018 21:53:52 GMT -5
I would kill for a release of the Daniel Handler's second movie script draft. It sounds absolutely hilarious!
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