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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Oct 1, 2020 5:57:17 GMT -5
Do you know what I would really like to make up for all this delay? News that Netflix would be producing an adaptation for ATWQ and would be waiting for this adaptation to be announced in order to take advantage of this to publish yet another Snicket book.
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Post by Hermes on Oct 1, 2020 5:57:56 GMT -5
Surely it can be listed under "young adult fiction" and not children's books to avoid such an error? The anticipation for this ruddy book is huge... I was thinking that - rather as Philip Pullman's books are now published as Young Adult, though they were originally children's - but I wonder if the style is too much associated with children's books: if you picked a Snicket book up expecting something like The Hunger Games you would be very confused. |
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Oct 1, 2020 6:13:22 GMT -5
I agree. But getting the reader confused is something that Lemony Snicket did very well on ASOUE and ATWQ. I can say that I like these two works because it is something made for children but with additional layers that make me think even today. And if you think about it, the original fairy tales were like that too. Filled with violence, dubious moral choices and subliminal moral lessons that are difficult to accept. The original fairy tales were not written with the intention of cheering children. They were written for human beings in general, they had childlike appeals, but they even made adult people listen with attention and interest, because these stories contained elements that attract adults as well. ASOUE tries to parody fairy tales, but at the same time it contains this same characteristic of fairy tales. I imagine that some stories of fairy tales very well known today would be classified as classified for young adults if by chance they were just a little more descriptive in their events. (I think they did a TV series with this theme). And think of classic adventure stories like the treasure island. Would you say that there is a story for children? The answer is yes. But the story continues to have elements that are attractive to adults as well. Come on, in the last few years, children's stories have become really childish. I understand that in ASOUE Daniel Handler criticized this tendency.
In ASOUE, the character Lemony Snicket is not only writing for children. He knows that children will read that content and adapts the language and description of the events accordingly. This is one of the things that makes the story interesting for all ages.
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Post by bear on Oct 1, 2020 7:25:14 GMT -5
Seems like a lot of hype for a book that was gonna be standalone and, from what I was predicting, average at best. why would you predict this ?? 🤬 |
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Post by thesugarbowl on Oct 1, 2020 7:50:35 GMT -5
why would you predict this ?? 🤬 Just because it's standalone. We know Handler likes a good, drawn out mystery, so I assumed that this book would be restricted to a set location with a fixed event, and that the story wouldn't really go elsewhere. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though. |
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Post by bear on Oct 1, 2020 9:11:00 GMT -5
DH has never published a stand-alone children’s novel before, so I don’t know how any of us could imagine the results, let alone imagine that they would be average (average amongst what?)
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Post by Hermes on Oct 1, 2020 11:14:07 GMT -5
Many people find his drawn-out mysteries one of the least satisfying aspects of his work, though.
As to the level at which it is published, I think this is an issue to do with marketing rather than the actual nature of the work. Bookshops often put works by one author together. For instance, though His Dark Materials and sequels are now definitely YA, Philip Pullman has also written what are unquestionably children's books, like Count Karlstein and The Scarecrow and his Servant: yet these are often found on the YA shelves, because everyone knows Pullman is a YA author. So a book with 'Lemony Snicket' on the cover will be treated as a children's book, because Snicket is a children's author, unlike Daniel Handler, author of Why We Broke Up, who is (among other things) a YA author. Perhaps it should be printed as by Daniel Handler, being a story his friend Lemony told him?
(Of course, many people confound the matter by calling all young people's fiction YA anyway. But in the professional world the distinction is still observed.)
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Post by gothicarchiesfan on Oct 7, 2020 1:58:39 GMT -5
Poison for Breakfast?
It will finally be out next year. It was delayed for various boring reasons. It will be out less than a year from now. In the summer of 2021. |
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Post by Dante on Oct 7, 2020 2:39:30 GMT -5
He sounds quite certain, so I think we can be fairly confident that, finally, we have less than a year to wait.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Oct 7, 2020 4:08:45 GMT -5
Poison for Breakfast?
It will finally be out next year. It was delayed for various boring reasons. It will be out less than a year from now. In the summer of 2021. I just want to clarify that as promised, I was the one who asked about it. So, consider me forgiven for my past mistakes. This time I asked the right question, don't you think? |
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Post by eescorpius on Oct 24, 2020 1:01:31 GMT -5
I am really in a desperate need of a new Lemony Snicket book.
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Post by tricky on May 31, 2024 16:10:47 GMT -5
Namely, the refusal of Edgemont/Harper Collins (I assume primarily the latter) to include more “sensitive” passages:
Speaking in an exclusive interview with The Telegraph, Snicket said of his dealing with the sensitivity reader: “I found some of the person’s suggestions not helpful.”
He added: “The publisher was nervous about how that book talks about the colonisation of America and the slaughtering of indigenous people.
“But as with all objections to all Snicket books, it was more the tone – they just felt that the tone was wrong.
“The book ended up being published by someone else… without any changes along those lines made to it, and I’m not aware of any complaints. In fact, the offending passage has been quoted approvingly.”
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Post by Tiran O'Saurus on May 31, 2024 19:50:24 GMT -5
I like how their objection to PFB was a minor and completely accurate passage, not that the book has the least satisfying plot Snicket ever wrote.
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