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Post by Ewok50 on Nov 8, 2020 9:10:22 GMT -5
This is about side books in the ASOUE series. For instance, The Unauthorised Autobiography, The Beatrice Letters, etc.
Post any of your opinions about these books!
Do you think, in the second chapter of The Unauthorised Autobiography, the letter to Lemony Snicket, was really from the Duchess of Winnipeg? Please explain.
I have heard many times, that on the cover of The Beatrice Letters, Beatrice Baudelaire II is in Beatrice's face. I have looked and cannot find it. Can someone put a picture of the cover circling the hidden face?
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Post by El Juanico Diez on Nov 8, 2020 11:23:06 GMT -5
Do you think, in the second chapter of The Unauthorised Autobiography, the letter to Lemony Snicket, was really from the Duchess of Winnipeg? Please explain. I will try to be simple and summarize my answers. (The new generation seems to like short answers). Then you can read my completed texts on the subject if you wish. So, in a simple way, I believe that R is the real R, because it presents details in the letter that only close friends seem to know. In addition, there are no requests in the letter to indicate that the letter's author wants to trap Lemony into a trap. Quite the opposite. The only request in the letter is for Lemony to carefully analyze certain photographs. I believe that the real R was under surveillance or knew that the letter could fall into the hands of villains who knew the organization's secret codes. So she put an indication that she was under surveillance (something like a Duress Code). But she really wanted to pass on valuable information that only Lemony would understand using the photographs. asoue.proboards.com/thread/36323/trying-say (my long text about it) |
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Post by R. on Nov 8, 2020 11:26:33 GMT -5
I definitely think that it was an impostor. Not only were there a great deal of inaccuracies, but her last line about Beatrice sounded very snarky and insincere to me, like a firestarter faking sympathy in a deliberately unsettling way. It is likely that the impostor R was going to write multiple letters and gain Lemony’s trust that it was actually her before luring him into any traps.
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Post by El Juanico Diez on Nov 8, 2020 11:30:16 GMT -5
I believe that the real "R" purposely missed the color of the car in the staging and the position of the car. I believe she used a kind of Duress code. In the minutes of the VFD meeting partially printed in chapter 3 of the UA, there is a record of a speech of R, which is spelled out. "Someone migth, for example, forget crucial information regarding the exact location of the automobiles we use to store necessary files and convey messages." The person who underlined this passage, wrote the following at the edge of the page: "an interesting idea ..." I believe R thought this was an interesting idea to use as Duress code. After all, she knew the Snicket family would be sure that R would never forget the location and color of the car. In the letter found on page 83 of the UA, R states that he would never forget the location of the secret Jeep. Now notice what Lemony first thought of when reading the letter as described in her personal notes:
"The Jeep outside the Orion Observatory was of course not navy blue but black, and parked in the northwest corner, not the southwest." She would never forget this The real R was tested on this information every month for more than seven years. IS SHE TRYING TO TELL ME SOMETHING? "
In addition, in the letter's contents, there is evidence that R used secret codes based on books. All the books that are quoted in the letter are among those cited in chapter 10 of the UA: Charlotte's Web, Green Mansions, Ivan Lachrymose: Lake Explorer. In chapter 10, the excerpt from Carlotte's Web makes reference to crickets that sing: "Summer is over and gone", Over and gone, over and gone. Summer is dying, dying. "Among the books cited in chapter 10 of the AU, there is a book called "Mamba du Mau: A Snake that will never kill me." In this book, the author (Uncle Monty using an anagram as a pseudonym) explains that Mamba du Mal and garden crickets can be trained to alert people. If crickets or Mamba du Mau say, "Summer is" for instance, they are communcating a coded version of the phrase "Enemie are nerby. "
If they say the phrase "Over and gone" they actually mean "probably in disguise" and the word "dying" as a code for "Beware of arson".
So when R talked about crickets in the winter, it's likely she was sending the message to Lemony: "Enemie are nerby, probably in disguise." Beware of arson.
I think it is unlikely that Lemony's enemies would reach that level of trying to deceive Lemony, that is, to warn him through a code so difficult and so barely detectable that there are enemies nearby, disguised and telling him to be careful, if R herself was one of those enemies.
The information described in the letter regarding the Masked Ball is very similar to the other information we have about what happened on the Masked Ball. Lemony does not deny that he left several disguises in the hands of R. And most important, R wrote: "Your typewriter is gone, and the bright blue accordion, with I belive you told me your third favorite."
The author of the letter knew about the blue accordion, and that this was Lemony's third favorite. This is very personal information, and hardly an impostor would know that. Lemony does not say something like, "I believe this letter comes from an impostor because I did not leave any disguise at her house." He also does not say, "I believe this letter comes from an impostor because my third favorite accordion was not that blue." So, everything leads me to believe that the R letter is authentic.
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Post by Dante on Nov 8, 2020 12:38:40 GMT -5
I am taking the liberty of locking this thread. Outside of general discussion threads at the time of a book's release, the boards are more oriented towards threads based on single specific topics and questions - and while this one is trending in that direction, it's one Jean Lucio has already created a thread for and written on extensively, so I think there is little need to go over old ground in a second thread. Better luck next time, ewok40; but feel free to bring your questions to one of the many past threads in this forum, or, if you can't find one, dedicate an entirely new thread with a narrower purpose than this one! Additionally, ewok40, if you want to add a new statement shortly after posting and nobody else has replied yet, you can use the "Edit" button at the top-right of your post to revise it and add more. Multiple consecutive posts in a short time frame pads a thread unnecessarily and is frowned on here. I have heard many times, that on the cover of The Beatrice Letters, Beatrice Baudelaire II is in Beatrice's face. I have looked and cannot find it. Can someone put a picture of the cover circling the hidden face? The second portrait is hidden in the negative space at the back of the first portrait's head. In other words, the edge of Beatrice's hair at the back of her head forms a second face mirroring her own at the front. Locked. |
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