Post by El Juanico Diez on Dec 6, 2021 22:30:53 GMT -5
I was recently discussing about the city of VFD on TVV. I now believe that the village is formed mainly by descendants of some former splinter group of the secret organization VFD. In other words, the formation of the village is the result of an ancient schism, one of the many schisms that have existed in VFD throughout history. Consider the following:
1 - In TPP Dewey makes a quote about boys throwing rocks at frogs (chapter 8) which is credited to one of the first volunteers. In the real world, Bion of Borysthenes (c. 325 – c. 250 BC) made this quote originally, showing that VFD is actually very old, probably starting in ancient Greece, at the time of Alexander the Great (which is also quoted by Lemony) or a little later.
2 - Both Olaf (in TE) and Lemony in ATWQ claim that there were several schisms. Lemony implies that he is talking about events that took place over hundreds of years.
3 - VFD village crows are trained crows. In TSS the Woman with the Beard but No Hair shows that the volunteers got the crows in a way similar to the way arsonists got the eagles. This implies that in that city there are some VFD members (or several members) besides Hector, who are responsible for using the crows in missions if necessary. (As happened in the TPP, with Hector himself no longer available in the village to command the crows).
4 - What happened in the city of CSC is very similar to what happened on the Island. But in the city, the proportions were apparently greater and the social structures were much better established.
Note: Apparently the townspeople of VFD created strict laws aimed at keeping the peace, as at some point in authority people (ancestors of the council of elders) determined that technology and knowledge are things that can end peace. Ish demonstrated the same attitude on the Island. The difference is that while Ish was trying to manipulate people by giving them a false sense of freedom of choice, in VFD village it was quite clear that the law restricted his freedom.
While on Ish Island he tried to create an undercover religious cult centered on a charismatic leader who was himself, in the VFD village religion was not something in disguise: there was an official religion that worshiped crows in that village, and this was evidently used to promote stability social and brotherhood in an attempt to keep the peace.
As on the island, the inhabitants of VFD tried to find peace by withdrawing from the rest of society, a philosophy much like hermitism.
Ishmael tried to impose a punishment on those he deemed dangerous to the peace, just as the VFD village laws already did in a far more shocking way: burning people. The act of the law encouraging an execution through collective participation in the act of execution, both inculcated fear of disobedience and allowed that the violent side of each citizen could be spilled over into an eventual and legally permitted public event.
All of these similarities point to a similar origin: just as Ish formed the community on the Island after witnessing a lot of violence caused by the Splits and treacheries of the world, something like this must have motivated the founders of the VFD village. Just as Ish had been guided by the phrase "the world is quite here" and tried to make his island a quiet place at all costs, the founders of VFD village must also have tried to create their own version of the quiet town (something similar to that movie " The village".)
If there is anything true about the village story told by Hector, it must be the fact that 200 years before the main story of asoue happened, a group that controlled VFD crows decided to break up and form their own village, trying to prove that they were the only ones. The way to achieve a quiet world is through social isolation and disincentives to inventiveness, technology and the search for knowledge.
It is noteworthy that about 200 years before the time when it is generally assumed to have taken place, the invention of the revolver took place in our world. It's reasonable to think that inventions of a portable firearm like these must have made people trying to fight fires very worried about the potential for harm of human inventiveness... Well, but that's another hypothesis.
1 - In TPP Dewey makes a quote about boys throwing rocks at frogs (chapter 8) which is credited to one of the first volunteers. In the real world, Bion of Borysthenes (c. 325 – c. 250 BC) made this quote originally, showing that VFD is actually very old, probably starting in ancient Greece, at the time of Alexander the Great (which is also quoted by Lemony) or a little later.
2 - Both Olaf (in TE) and Lemony in ATWQ claim that there were several schisms. Lemony implies that he is talking about events that took place over hundreds of years.
3 - VFD village crows are trained crows. In TSS the Woman with the Beard but No Hair shows that the volunteers got the crows in a way similar to the way arsonists got the eagles. This implies that in that city there are some VFD members (or several members) besides Hector, who are responsible for using the crows in missions if necessary. (As happened in the TPP, with Hector himself no longer available in the village to command the crows).
4 - What happened in the city of CSC is very similar to what happened on the Island. But in the city, the proportions were apparently greater and the social structures were much better established.
Note: Apparently the townspeople of VFD created strict laws aimed at keeping the peace, as at some point in authority people (ancestors of the council of elders) determined that technology and knowledge are things that can end peace. Ish demonstrated the same attitude on the Island. The difference is that while Ish was trying to manipulate people by giving them a false sense of freedom of choice, in VFD village it was quite clear that the law restricted his freedom.
While on Ish Island he tried to create an undercover religious cult centered on a charismatic leader who was himself, in the VFD village religion was not something in disguise: there was an official religion that worshiped crows in that village, and this was evidently used to promote stability social and brotherhood in an attempt to keep the peace.
As on the island, the inhabitants of VFD tried to find peace by withdrawing from the rest of society, a philosophy much like hermitism.
Ishmael tried to impose a punishment on those he deemed dangerous to the peace, just as the VFD village laws already did in a far more shocking way: burning people. The act of the law encouraging an execution through collective participation in the act of execution, both inculcated fear of disobedience and allowed that the violent side of each citizen could be spilled over into an eventual and legally permitted public event.
All of these similarities point to a similar origin: just as Ish formed the community on the Island after witnessing a lot of violence caused by the Splits and treacheries of the world, something like this must have motivated the founders of the VFD village. Just as Ish had been guided by the phrase "the world is quite here" and tried to make his island a quiet place at all costs, the founders of VFD village must also have tried to create their own version of the quiet town (something similar to that movie " The village".)
If there is anything true about the village story told by Hector, it must be the fact that 200 years before the main story of asoue happened, a group that controlled VFD crows decided to break up and form their own village, trying to prove that they were the only ones. The way to achieve a quiet world is through social isolation and disincentives to inventiveness, technology and the search for knowledge.
It is noteworthy that about 200 years before the time when it is generally assumed to have taken place, the invention of the revolver took place in our world. It's reasonable to think that inventions of a portable firearm like these must have made people trying to fight fires very worried about the potential for harm of human inventiveness... Well, but that's another hypothesis.
