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Post by B. on Feb 15, 2022 16:15:50 GMT -5
What do you envisage day to day life in a society without capitalism would look like?
In theory I would like to see this, but I have a very hard time visualising what is/could be beyond capitalism or how certain things would work, so I'm hoping some of you can help me out.
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Feb 15, 2022 16:48:15 GMT -5
It's not that hard to imagine. The Indians here in Brazil, before the arrival of the Portuguese, lived in a society without capitalism. Usually people work because they believe in a higher religious power that tells them what they need to do, or they are afraid of being punished in some mystical way. In more modern societies without capitalism, there are government authorities who say what their job should be, and people do it because they are afraid of being punished in some way and do it with sadness or because they believe that the system in which they are inserted and the do with joy. Be that as it may, the engine of societies without capitalism is fear or beliefs. On the other hand, in capitalism the engine behind the system is greed. (Oh, and the fear of not having what it takes to live or to have health care too, of course.) Unfortunately, greed has serious consequences for society and the environment, especially in the long term. But in the short term, greed motivates technological and scientific development, but also corruption. If it weren't for greed, many drugs would not have been developed, and possibly epidemics would be more difficult to control. Of course greed breeds social aberrations and pockets of poverty and violence.
In a nutshell, there is no really good human economic system.
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Post by twigz on Feb 16, 2022 5:44:36 GMT -5
peaceful?
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Post by Optimism is my Phil-osophy on Feb 16, 2022 7:10:15 GMT -5
Even the brazilian Indians fought among themselves. But certainly with much inferior technology. After all, what promotes the increase in military technology is also the greed promoted by capitalism. The fights would exist, but the number of deaths would be smaller. I mean, if capitalism never existed. But now that the technologies are already consolidated, expecting peace just in the absence of capitalism is not such a realistic expectation. It is true that greed is one of the engines of violence, but it is good for me to make something clear: although capitalism is driven by greed, this does not mean that the absence of capitalism means the absence of greed. But in addition to greed, there are religious and ideological factors that sometimes lead to violence, and these factors are precisely the engines of societies without capitalism. Other contributing factors to violence is nationalism (or sense of belonging). There is also injustice, fear, and revenge. So, greed, ideologies and religious beliefs, nationalism, injustices, fear and revenge: this is indifferent to the economic system adopted.
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