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Post by Lady Michelina on Sept 25, 2003 19:21:17 GMT -5
i dont have time to finish this cuz i have to get off real quick... C.M. Kornbluth= Charlie from TMM Isaac Anwhistle= Ike from TWW well I knew it was the same Ike from TWW but I would have never guessed C.M Kornbluth was Charles! Good going Klaus!  |
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Post by Freshie on Sept 25, 2003 19:22:16 GMT -5
i knew about Ike, didnt know the 1st...
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Post by Lady Michelina on Sept 25, 2003 19:27:25 GMT -5
i knew about Ike, didnt know the 1st... yeah same  |
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Post by Lady Michelina on Sept 25, 2003 19:36:33 GMT -5
he said he had to go...i guess we'll have to wait until tomorrow for a theory... |
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Post by onerousolaf on Sept 25, 2003 20:00:37 GMT -5
YAHOO! When my mom picked me up from school today, I asked her if I could get the Slippery Slope. She thought for a bit and finally said yes! (I wish I hadn't read the whole thing in one day though, now I have to wait ANOTHER year until book the eleventh comes out.) First things first! I LOVED the Slippery Slope! I wonder how the Quigley/Violet thing is going to work out. I wonder how Duncan is going to react when he finds out Violet and Quigley like eachother. I felt sorry for Violet at the end of the Slippery Slope, she's lost so many people that she loved (her parents, Uncle Monty, and I suppose Aunt Josephine) and on top of that, she lost her first crush.  And although I thought the "Busheney" thing was little out of line, I loved Sunny's speech and how Olaf was too stupid to realize that Sunny was actually speaking English most of the time but he kept insisitng it was a foreign language. (Although it must have been very frustrating for Sunny) It was also really satisfying to see Sunny call Olaf names, considering all the times he has given them cruel nicknames and insults. I can't think of what mushrooms have to do with the eleventh book! I wish Lemony had told us what the next book was going to be called, it's driving me crazy. BTW, why does everyone think it is called the Grim Gameroom? The second letter doesn't look anything like an "A", it looks like an "R." Something else I noticed, on the bottom of 335 and top of 336 is says, "and indeed, the grown men in the Baudelaires lives who were dead, such as Jacques Snicket, OR THE CHILDREN'S FATHER, were never going to rise up. " Does that mean that the mom was the parent who survived the fire? Or is it a red herring? Or am I misintrepeting the sentence (And I must say, I am leaning toward the third choice because I often misintrpet things.) |
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Post by Pester, Rumormonger on Sept 25, 2003 20:40:00 GMT -5
Well, I was just kidding.. it's probably not graveyard at all. But.. man, I'm so happy it is a submarine! I hope they visit that place LS mentioned.. the underwater room. Oh, and remember the poem.. p. 243 That no life lives forever; That dead man rise up never; That even the weariest river Winds somewhere safe to sea" Maybe they will meet all the volunteers/people they thought were dead down below? Maybe the hotel has a level that is underwater? Book the Fourth: "Lemony Snicket grew up near the sea and currently lives beneath it." Book the Seventh: "Until recently, he lived somewhere else." |
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Post by Pester, Rumormonger on Sept 25, 2003 21:32:28 GMT -5
That last one was picking up from a few pages before, and I just wanted to get that in quickly before someone else noticed it.  Other thoughts, in the picture at the beginning of the book there was a snow man on the table, although it wasn't mentioned in any of the descriptions. I thought it might refer to the one from zombies in the snow where a fire survivor hid. Since Quigley didn't talk about hiding in a snow man that means it must've been someone else. Oh, speaking of LSUA, the ending of TSS explains why it says "Overboard" after Quigley's name in the index. Speaking of Quigley, I swear that I became a Violet/Quigley shipper a page before they kissed and I was sort of dissappointed not to get all the breathless anticipation that shippers are accustomed to. Oh well. It is exactly like Lemony to not say what happened in that moment they rested on the slope. Where Kafka and Poe (Edgar Allen Poe, that is) will turn the eye away from the story when what transpires is too gruesome, Snicket is obliged to tell us all of the terrible details but free to allow Violet her privacy in a happy moment. This is why he's not paparazzi. |
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Post by negativenine on Sept 25, 2003 22:45:43 GMT -5
Well, geez, we wouldn't want ASoUE to be happy, would we? I need to do a huge re-read and write a whole load of stuff down that I didn't catch the first time. Nice job spotting the snowman. I just noticed that along with it, there's also a knife (like the one from THH).
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Post by Pester on Sept 25, 2003 23:07:50 GMT -5
I'm not complaining, I was just making an observation.
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Post by negativenine on Sept 25, 2003 23:19:22 GMT -5
*hits self over head with pan* I wasn't trying to criticize you, Pester. I just meant that ASoUE wouldn't be ASoUE if it was happy. It would be ASoFE. And swans, about Poe's "funny smell" and "more than cigarettes"... maybe THAT's what the mushrooms are hinting at... |
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Post by Pester on Sept 25, 2003 23:32:37 GMT -5
I just wanted to add that all the Algernon Charles Swinburne books are mysteriously missing from every library in town.
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Post by Klaus not here on Sept 26, 2003 7:40:38 GMT -5
Its just a thought swans on the CM Kornbluth... it does make a little bit of sense though, Charlie was nice to them, he probably liked mechanical things (all the machineary inside of the mill)... but besides that, its just a thought that popped into my head when I read his name.
I have some other things to post to (my commanplace notebook on the slippery slope)... ill post it when i get back from evil school.
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Post by DetectiveDupin on Sept 26, 2003 12:50:35 GMT -5
When it was saying, in Chapter 10, about the Baudelaires losing things, I seriously thought it was going to mention Violet losing her virginity. |
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Post by Vacuum Pot on Sept 26, 2003 13:54:50 GMT -5
THE MAN WITH A BEARD AND NO HAIR AND THE WOMAN WITH HAIR BUT NO BEARD COULDN'T HAVE BEEN AT THE CARNIVAL BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT OLAF HAD BURNED IT DOWN. They might be on the submarine for one part of the book, and somewhere else for the rest. And it's probably the Grim Graveyard, I thought it was this the second I found the book and looked in the back at B 'n N. The Gr______ is about the same length as the word graveyard... and the weird thing is... On UE.net we had an RPG called The Grim Graveyard...  |
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Post by ponygirl's vapor on Sept 26, 2003 15:07:53 GMT -5
Heres my commanplace notebook on The Slippery Slope.... I remember yesturday I was about to write down some more things but then I had to leave and forgot them.... So...
The Slippery Slope
(notes from commanplace notebooks)
To my kind editor,
I apologize for the watery quality of this letter, but I'm afraid the ink I am using has become dilisted, a word which here means "soaked with salt water from the ocean and from the author's own tears." It is difficult to conduct my investigation on the somaged subermarine where the Baudelaire lived during this episode of their lives, and I can only hope that the rest of this letter will not (illegible words).
The Grim Gr (smuged out completely)
words that are "gr" that fit:
graduation
grammer
granary
grand (insert word here- duke, aunt, child, dad, daughter, duchess, durchey, dame)
Grand Jury
grand piano
granlite
grape
grape fruit
grapevine
grapple
grass
grasshopper
grate
grave
grave stone
grave yard
gravy
grease
greenhouse
greenroom
gremlin
grill
grizzly bear
ground
group
grove
(most likely graveyard)
Looks like there is a captile A at the end of the smugedness, but am not to sure. This letter does not look complete. Will we get to see the rest of this letter later? Maybe it will be released as a Slippery Slope like clue...
Two who disappear and where never found again turns out to be the two-powdered-face-women who found hearts and turned away from Count Olaf. The initals V.F.D. seem to stand for everything the V.F.D. use, which can become confusing, but we find that the true initals stand for Volunteer Fire Department.
Two sinister villians appear. A man without hair but a beard. A woman with hair but not a beard. Which is what Lemony refers to them as because he is to frightened to say there real names. Even Olaf seems nervous and edgy around them. Who could they be? Noticed how when Violet, Klaus, Quigly were in disguise and told the villians they were volunteers the woman with hair but no beard voice momentarily was as deep as usual. Perhaps she and he are in disguise or she was frightened/nervous. But once again who are they? They work for the VFD, or did. But they were on Olaf's side of the schism. Interesting how they werent mentioned in LSUA. LSUA was published before TCC- perhaps if we looked at some of the illustrations in TCC there might be a bald man without hair but a beard, and a woman with hair but no beard, or maybe they are a new thought charectar and had no previous origin from the previous books.
Bruce, the leader of snow scouts is the same person from the herpetological society who took away Uncle Monty's collection; later we find that count olaf persuaded him to give the reptiles to him.
Before the schism, the VFD united had many animals that helped them, after the schism,the good VFD people had carrier crows on there side (Village of Fowl Devotees) and trained reptiles (though Olaf interrupts saying "Not anymore, all but one-" he is cut off, perhaps that one is the incredibly deadly viper) but bad VFD people have lions (once very noble beasts used to sniff fires) and eagles. Sinister people to use eagles to get down the self-sustaining house hector built. (perhaps the good vfd had crickets on there side too- in lsua, R in her letter to Lemony notes that she could not hear the crickets. Perhaps is referringg to secret messages in crickets give as found in back of LSUA).
Spats, Winnipeg, and Kornbluth fortunes (and many more) Esme talks about having. C.M. Kornbluth the mechanical engineer at VFD HQ is most likely Charlie from TMM, must have had children who are now in the snow scouts. Duchess of Winnipeg from LSUA (mentioned many times) was refered to as R, must have children now in snow scouts. Currently all snow scouts are in bad vfd'ers hands.
Lemony talks about how at a picnic the Baudelaire mom gave Lemony a recipe for chilled salad. On page 29 of LSUA there is a picture of the second annual codebreaking picnic. Perhaps this is the same one where beatrice gives lemony the recipe?
It is now completely confirmed that Ike (Dr. Isaac Anwhistle) was a VFD person. Could Josephine Anwsalsale be also? What was Ike a doctor of?
A brave volunteer threw the sugar bowl out of the window so it would not be destroyed in the fire that consumed the VFD VFD HQ. Went down tributary of the Stricken Stream. Note that the Baudelaire and Quigley are taking two seperate journeys down Striken Stream tributary. Perhaps the Baudelaires or Quigley will find the sugar bowl and unlock its mystery's. The fire was not that long before the Baudelaires and Quigley went down the tributaries.
The back picture in The Slippery Slope does not have anything extremely interesting or obvious. The only small thing is 5 mushrooms with some polka dots. Cannot see other side, uncountable amount. Submarine and mushroom?
That no life lives forever;
That dead men rise up never;
That even the weariest river
Winds somewhere safe to sea
Poem found Verbal Fride Dialouge.
Find rhyming dictionary and what rymes with "zucchini"
Last Safe Place=Hotel Denouement. Sinister people and Olaf and his henchmen plan on burning down the hotel.
Note in letter to Lemony's sister, he says that her suggestion that hiding anything important and small in a tea set was very handy. Sunny found a tea set when cooking breakfast.
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Other thoughts, in the picture at the beginning of the book there was a snow man on the table, although it wasn't mentioned in any of the descriptions. I thought it might refer to the one from zombies in the snow where a fire survivor hid. Since Quigley didn't talk about hiding in a snow man that means it must've been someone else. Oh, speaking of LSUA, the ending of TSS explains why it says "Overboard" after Quigley's name in the index. 
