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Post by lauren on Apr 18, 2005 0:08:10 GMT -5
THe only authors i've know who've ended a book/series with it all being a dream are those who lack the ability to solve their own conflict they conjured in their story.
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Post by charliebaudelaire2 on Apr 22, 2005 11:28:59 GMT -5
well i was thinking that mabey one of them had the dream of all this but when they wake up the same thing happens like in the first book, EX: they go to the beach home burns down ect OK, I'm writing a fanfic about that! My 'Poe's Secrets' story is c*** anyway! |
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Post by Antenora on Apr 22, 2005 12:29:23 GMT -5
THe only authors i've know who've ended a book/series with it all being a dream are those who lack the ability to solve their own conflict they conjured in their story. Exactly. And Handler's much better than that. In my misguided attempts at writing, I've written myself into corners and used deus ex machina endings not unlike "it was all a dream", although I don't recall using that particular cop-out. |
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Post by smileyman457 on May 24, 2005 9:34:34 GMT -5
I, for one, believe it would be really lame if he did that. I mean yes it's a twist but it's an overused one. What if only art of it was a dream. They did go to slepp in Book Eight. And after that things got really crazy. Could be. Who knows... |
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Post by Antenora on May 24, 2005 10:08:31 GMT -5
I don't recall all the Baudelaires going to sleep at once in book 8.
And furthermore, how can they all be sharing the same dream? If the series, or at least part of it, is completely a dream, which of the three viewpoint characters is the one dreaming it?
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Post by Dante on May 24, 2005 10:14:09 GMT -5
And furthermore, how can they all be sharing the same dream? If the series, or at least part of it, is completely a dream, which of the three viewpoint characters is the one dreaming it? An issue tackled, to an extent, in Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There. Was it Alice's dream, or the Red King's? And let's bear in mind that Violet's least favourite song is Row, Row, Row Your Boat, because she hates the part about life being but a dream. That could be taken as evidence for or against the theory that it's all a dream, as it happens. I've probably posted all that before in this very same thread. Edit: Yeah, pretty much everything in this post is on the first page. Still, I'm not going to delete it. We need a reminder. |
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Post by hookhandedgirl on Jun 6, 2005 14:58:18 GMT -5
like all that terrible stuff could be a dream! it would stink if it was all a dream.
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Post by chabo on Jul 3, 2005 4:16:47 GMT -5
The person who started this convosation could be onto something!!!! I have just checked the tune for the little snicket lad and it is row row row your.
Although i doubt Lemony is going to end the book as all a dream. But it could mean something else. Actully I'm pretty sure it does mean something else!
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Post by Antenora on Jul 3, 2005 6:42:07 GMT -5
I don't know if there's any particular significance to the sameness of those tunes. However, I think the Baudelaires, or at least Violet, have heard both when they were young. "The Little Snicket Lad" may figure into book 12 or 13.
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Post by Dante on Jul 3, 2005 6:58:07 GMT -5
Let's not forget that the music included with The Little Snicket Lad was the wrong music. Row Row Row Your Boat might be a red herring (and anyway, in TGG, Violet (who, in my opinion, is speaking for Handler in that scene) says that she really dislikes the song).
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Post by Antenora on Jul 3, 2005 6:59:28 GMT -5
It was the tune of a "well-known hymn of naval disaster". I thought, for a long time, that The Little Snicket Lad had the same tune as "The Wreck of the Hesperus" a song of naval disaster.
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Post by Sugary Snicket on Jul 9, 2005 12:58:29 GMT -5
The parody version: Row, row, row your boat
Gently down the stream
If you see a crocodile
Don't forget to screamHere's a parody: Row,row,row your boat
Down the Stricken Stream
But when you see the waterfall
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Post by lauren on Jul 9, 2005 20:17:03 GMT -5
hmmmm...very interesting...I've heard the first parody, but not the second....did u get the second one of the net? or have you heard it before?
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Post by Sugary Snicket on Jul 12, 2005 12:55:08 GMT -5
No, I made up the "Stricken Stream" Parody. Anyway, we really need to get back on topic:
I think that it is NOT a dream. At least I hope not. Snicket's too talented for that. HE WILL NOT LEAVE HIS READERS HANGING!!!!!! At least I hope not....
I also heard that the "Gilligan's Island" Theme works better with The aforementioned song. It does work better..... Maybe THAT was the naval disaster Snicket meant to hint at. "Row, row, row" doesn't work at all, plus it's far too happy, and Snicket wouldn't do that. It's not "Old McDonald", either.
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Jul 12, 2005 15:38:30 GMT -5
I believe the "row, row, row your boat" tune being used was used as a joke, or for emphasizing to the observant and musical readers that that was not the original tune to the song. Although, if you are looking for a deeper meaning in that, perhaps Lemony Snicket is implying that his memories as a yonug boy before he became a VFDer seem more like a d4eam than actual memories.
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