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Post by The Snicket Letters on Jun 11, 2006 18:25:05 GMT -5
Hey. I'm curious--- what is exactly the difference between the USA versions and the UK versions? I'm a USA residents, and never really had seen the contents of the UK versions. Can some body post pictures of the cover and the back? (The Penultimate Peril)
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Post by Antenora on Jun 11, 2006 18:31:26 GMT -5
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Post by The Snicket Letters on Jun 11, 2006 18:33:45 GMT -5
Oh thanks! Um... but does that thread talks about the content aswell? Thanks, again.
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Post by Gigi on Jun 11, 2006 18:39:40 GMT -5
I always assumed the content was identical.
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Post by The Snicket Letters on Jun 11, 2006 18:43:30 GMT -5
Oh, interesting... I thought that since the covers were usually different (UK) the pictures inside would be changed, or something like that...
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Post by Dante on Jun 12, 2006 2:59:10 GMT -5
The contents are identical with a few stylistic changes that don't affect the text, illustrations, or page count; for example, the author and illustrator blurbs at the back were, until TPP, not printed on the grey page-plates as I understand they are in the U.S. editions, and indeed these same plate-things don't appear anywhere in the U.K. editions, with anything that would be printed upon them just being printed on a blank page. Beatrice dedications are done in a different font, also, and the copyright details are obviously different ("Printed and bound in Italy"?). But the body of the text, i.e. that included in the page count, is exactly the same, as are the letters to the editor. The Dear Reader letters on the back cover are the same, but printed on what's meant to look like yellowing and tattered paper. But everything else is the same; indeed, me and Gigi once compared the books and discovered that the page counts for every book have been exactly the same regardless of publisher, with the possible exception of the number of blank pages in the back or the detail pages at the front. For example, in the front of the U.K. books there's usually a list of all the previous books, in the rather decaying font used atop the U.K. covers; and the U.K. editions also have some exclusive Helquist artwork that appears in the front and on the back of each book, which can be viewd here. Plus, as stated, the covers have nearly always been different; Helquist seems to do alternative covers exclusively for the U.K. editions. What a nice chap. The borders are sometimes different, too; for example, TMM and TGG, and the spine colours have never been identical, although the two TPPs look very similar. The U.K. edition of the Unauthorized Autobiography had a completely redesigned cover that opened from the centre, and came sadly without the fake The Pony Party! cover or that cool photograph; our edition of The Blank Book has a slightly altered cover to make it resemble more the other U.K. editions, and we don't have the BBRE but we do have a couple of special editions of TBB which contain extra plates of new artwork (one of which was modified and used as the cover of the new edition of PPuzzles). Oh, and we don't have NNotations and PPuzzles, or at least, I've never seen them in the stores. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jun 13, 2006 20:06:52 GMT -5
Weird. It seems you guys get the upper hand on artwork.
Do you have the Ominous Omnibus or the Blank book?
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Post by Dante on Jun 14, 2006 6:06:01 GMT -5
We have a modified version of The Blank Book - the cover is slightly changed so it looks more like one of the regular U.K. editions.  As far as I'm aware, we never got The Ominous Omnibus, but it's possible we did. I did see the movie editions of the books in some stores when they came out. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jun 14, 2006 21:07:58 GMT -5
That's pretty much the same as our blank book then. Hm.
Maybe not the place to discuss it but are the UK editions of handler's adult books the same as the American ones?
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Post by Dante on Jun 15, 2006 6:05:18 GMT -5
Assuming that the "official" editions for the U.S.A. are those by HarperCollins, and that the editions by publishers Allison & Busby are the "official" U.K. versions for The Basic Eight and Watch Your Mouth, and Adverbs was published by 4th Estate:
TB8: Different cover. Other problems wouldn't surprise me.
WYM: Different cover. I hear the second half is meant to be printed in burgandy, but it's not.
Adverbs: Back cover and flaps modified, volcano reference in cover text cut out.
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Post by Antenora on Jun 15, 2006 8:01:14 GMT -5
On the matter of WYM, I get the impression that only one specific edition had the red text in the second half. I first read a library edition of it, which didn't have that text color, but the paperback I ended up getting for myself did. Looks like this: Edit: Image link didn't work at all, so here's the full Amazon page for my edition: www.amazon.com/gp/product/006093817X/102-4477199-2356965?v=glance&n=283155 |
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Post by champ103 on Jun 15, 2006 15:47:47 GMT -5
The U.K. edition of the Unauthorized Autobiography had a completely redesigned cover that opened from the centre, and came sadly without the fake The Pony Party! cover or that cool photograph; our edition of The Blank Book has a slightly altered cover to make it resemble more the other U.K. editions, and we don't have the BBRE but we do have a couple of special editions of TBB which contain extra plates of new artwork (one of which was modified and used as the cover of the new edition of PPuzzles). Oh, and we don't have NNotations and PPuzzles, or at least, I've never seen them in the stores. When THH was first released in the UK, some came with 'Pony Party' fold-over covers, restyled for the UK. I didn't manage to get one, but I definatley remember seeing them. ): It was the same picture, but the cover was set out like an English book. |
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Post by Dante on Jun 15, 2006 16:06:04 GMT -5
I'd heard rumours of that, but I'm not sure if I ever heard it from a reliable source. I've certainly never seen one, in real life, or even seen a scan, although I knew there was an English layout version of it because it was up at THEF.org (which I think is dead now). Actually, I'm pretty sure that Egmont does do promos for the U.K. editions, there are Amazon listings for such things, but I've never seen any or heard of anyone having them, ever, with the exception of my Nameless Novel t-shirt. They probably only come out in the bookstore right next-door to Egmont's headquarters or something.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jun 15, 2006 20:19:54 GMT -5
You should go to Egmont HQ and give them a piece of your mind.
You have a nameless novel t-shirt?
I have the WYM that Antenora has.
My LSUA definitely doesn't have a pony party cover. In fact I know I've heard of it but I can't remember what that is.
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Post by Dante on Jun 16, 2006 6:52:15 GMT -5
Yeah, I have a Nameless Novel t-shirt. It has the bar code and ISBN number for TPP printed in large size, and captioned above with "Watch Out For." On the reverse of the t-shirt it's got a small version of the original Olaf Ex Libris picture, and says "Snicket's Back." To repeat the story of how I got it, Egmont sent some to a small bookstore near where I live as an apology for failing to get TPP to them on the release date. Which is, um, an unusual way of handing out pre-release promotional items for a book. Pictures of The Pony Party! (I ordered a U.S. hardcover U.A. just so I could have what I regard as the "true" cover) are here. And here's a picture which I just found on my computer of what is apparently the U.K. rearranged version:  |
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