My theory~survivor of the fire!!!

[Flaneur]

MynamesJacques said:

And I don't like Olaf being the survivor of the fire either because the snickets wouldn't bother to put that information in a file, all vfders would know that he was still alive.

The way they all knew Lemony was alive? Speaking of the time when they thought he was dead, I mean. Anyway, it seems to me that in regard to a large part of the organization, VFDers are rather ignorant of Olaf, at least judging by Montgomery and Josephine and Hector et cetera. There's a large amount of confusion all round; the schism dashed everything to pieces and I think that people are still scrambling to figure out just what the cause and consequences of this were. There's a lot of malcommunication, I think. Thus, perhaps Lemony is trying to get the story out not only to us, but to the rest of the volunteers.

To say something on the main thread subject, I've considered this idea before and really don't know what to think. That Olaf was in their house the day it burned down and that he was alive after that is unquestionable, but I do not know if he is THE - SURVIVOR or not. I rather stay away from the survivor identity thing, I don't have a definite opinion on the matter. Much too full of possibilities.

MynamesJacques said:

I don't believe the whole 'esme was dating Lemony' theory because Lemony would never date her.

My feelings exactly. Lemony! And Esmé! *jaw drops, eyes glaze over* nooooooo...
*pops back into consciousness*
I most certainly would hope not, although one never knows...but no, no, it cannot be true.

[Jacques the Environmentalist]

No, no it can't.
So volunteers who are ignorant of Olaf would read a file about Lemony being a survivor? I don't think so. Besides, my point is that Lemony's more a recluse and VFDers might not know if he survived, if Olaf survived on the other hand, continued attacks on their members and continuted villainy would make it obvious that he survived, so no need for that sort of information in a file.

[Dante]

MynamesJacques said:

continued attacks on their members and continuted villainy would make it obvious that he survived,

But Olaf's not the only enemy, as we know by now. Don't forget Dr. Orwell, or the sinister duo.

[labtec7]

yes my dear dear frends i am sad to say that the we (the vfd) do have many foes besides that horible man count olaf. it is beleved there are members of the oposite side of the schism that we have no information of simply because just as we have new members join so could they.

[Antenora]

Recently, Olaf's side has taken some unwilling recruits--the Snow Scouts and schoolchildren rowing the Carmelita. I wonder what these children will do in the future; will they continue to serve Olaf out of fear, or rebel against him?

[Dante]

Antenora said:

Recently, Olaf's side has taken some unwilling recruits--the Snow Scouts and schoolchildren rowing the Carmelita. I wonder what these children will do in the future; will they continue to serve Olaf out of fear, or rebel against him?

Fear's been a fine motivator so far. And let's not forget that the sinister duo still have Bruce - an adult. I wonder how well he's behaving?

[Jacques the Environmentalist]

Knowing Bruce, I'd say he has no idea what's going on and is encouraging the children to follow orders, and be *insert snow scout alphabet*

But it should be fairly obvious to VFDers if Olaf was alive though, many would see him/come in contact with him, he's one of their most famours enemies.

[jcgsebald]

It did say what fire it was so it could have been Lemony, Jaques, Kit, or Quigley Quagmire.

[Jacques the Environmentalist]

You mean it DIDN'T say what fire it was?
yes, the survivor's identity even, is still up for debate sadly. Their wherabouts are another question entirely, we still haven't seen the survivor hidden in the snowman.

[lauren]

i thought that survivor was quigly...:S because isn't it in the "where are the quagmires now? chapter" i don't have my book here but i think it was that one

[Jacques the Environmentalist]

But it said the survivor was hidden in a snowman. Quigley was not, nor did her ever mention being, hidden in a snowman, so logic says he's not the survivor Zombies in the snow was referring to.

[RockSunner]

mynamesjacques said:

But it said the survivor was hidden in a snowman. Quigley was not, nor did her ever mention being, hidden in a snowman, so logic says he's not the survivor Zombies in the snow was referring to.

But in earlier discussions we pretty well settled that Quigley isn't telling the whole truth in TSS. I'm keeping an open mind about Quigley and the snowman.

[Dante]

However, since the Snicket file was referred to repeatedly as the "Baudelaire file," and since there's a picture of the Baudelaire orphans and a picture of their parents in it, then I choose to think that the fire was the Baudelaire fire.

[Antenora]

ffwf said:

However, since the Snicket file was referred to repeatedly as the "Baudelaire file," and since there's a picture of the Baudelaire orphans and a picture of their parents in it, then I choose to think that the fire was the Baudelaire fire.

That interpretation makes the most sense to me as well. The Snicket file concerns the Baudelaire case, so the ambiguous statement "the fire" most likely means the Baudelaire mansion fire.

[Jacques the Environmentalist]

I agree with that. Besides, the picture that the survivor quote was under was a picture of the Snickets and the Baudelaires, no Quagmires involved.