violetfd
Reptile Researcher
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Post by violetfd on Aug 9, 2005 18:15:06 GMT -5
i think that the survivor is a snicket. the picture by the note was of jacques, the baudelaires and a mystery man(lemony?). so if the survivor is one of them, it can't be a baudelaire, so, it must be a snicket. but, if it's not lemony, the survivor is probably jacques, even though he's dead, he didn't die in a fire. if it is lemony, either jacques would not be considered a survivor(cause he's dead), or there are really two survivors.  |
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Post by Dante on Aug 10, 2005 1:39:06 GMT -5
I'm afraid that I'm not following your train of thought there. Could you explain your ideas more clearly, please?
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Antenora
Detriment Deleter 
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Post by Antenora on Aug 10, 2005 5:30:28 GMT -5
I don't think there are two survivors because the file says "one survivor of the fire". Note that this statement doesn't rule out the existance of a survivor from the Baudelaire fire and one (Quigley?) from another fire.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Aug 10, 2005 21:30:10 GMT -5
Why can't it be a Baudelaire, Violetfd? There are two snickets and 2 Baudelaires, it could be a Snicket or a Baudelaire, though it'd certainly be more interesting if it were a Baudelaire...
I still don't think Quigely is THE survivor, the Quagmires aren't really mentioned as having anything to do with the Snicket File nor is any Quagmire in the picture containing that sentence.
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Post by PJ on Aug 11, 2005 19:37:21 GMT -5
Why can't it be a Baudelaire, Violetfd? There are two snickets and 2 Baudelaires, it could be a Snicket or a Baudelaire, though it'd certainly be more interesting if it were a Baudelaire... I still don't think Quigely is THE survivor, the Quagmires aren't really mentioned as having anything to do with the Snicket File nor is any Quagmire in the picture containing that sentence. And Isadora and Duncan also escaped. That makes, even if they didn't know about Quigley, 2 survivors. Lemony? Well, it can't have been a SNICKET fire, or Kit and Jacques would be dead, too. No, I am almost certain it is the Baudelaire Mother. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Aug 11, 2005 21:35:45 GMT -5
Same for me. I'm still wondering how Duncan and Isadora escaped and why their mother didn't meet Quigley with them at the passage but that's probably not important... It is hard for me to believe the Quagmire mother is dead though when she seemed to have the situation under control according to Quigley.
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Post by lilmermaid987 on Aug 12, 2005 0:19:34 GMT -5
Well something must have happened to her (maybe she..........fell?) between getting Quigley in the passage and trying to get Duncan and Isadora out of the house. Perhaps the room the passage was in was too engulfed in flames by the time she got back. I highly doubt that a Quagmire parent is alive and having their children live in shacks and rolling down streams...Same goes for Baudelaire parents.
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Post by Dante on Aug 12, 2005 1:18:10 GMT -5
We now have a thread for the Quagmire fire, as I'm sure you're aware. While there'll probably be some cross-reference for the sake of sorting out the Snicket file, the details of the Quagmire fire really belong there. |
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Aug 13, 2005 22:02:37 GMT -5
Yes it's basically unquestionable that the Quagmires are dead since newspaper announcements clearly said their children were at prufrock
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Post by Juan Roberto Montoya De Toledo on Aug 14, 2005 5:09:32 GMT -5
Yes, it appears as though you're right.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Aug 15, 2005 21:37:55 GMT -5
Hehehe.
I didn't finisht that last post:
So logically their parents would read in the newspaper about where their children were and go fetch them. And they'd head to the end of the passageway(trr) and get their other child. So they're dead sadly.
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Post by lilmermaid987 on Aug 16, 2005 11:56:05 GMT -5
Right , then couldn't we say the same thing for the Baudelaire parents? Leaving the remaining people in the picture --The Snickets.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Aug 16, 2005 19:56:29 GMT -5
No we could not as the Baudelaires' children were constantly moving with little to no announcement as to where they were going, plus they were constantly pursued by Count Olaf and vicious VFD enemies, where as the Quagmires had relative peace for months in which their parents could have gotten them.
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Post by Grace on Sept 3, 2005 9:14:19 GMT -5
Just wanted to add this: SetnicK wrote on a thread that Dante locked...well, here's my two cents in the actual thread:
SetnicK wrote: "I really wasn't sure where this goes, and I was looking for the thread about the survivor of the fire, but I couldn't find it. Feel free to move this if you want...
On page 27 of TMM:
"...they thought of their parents, their poor parents whom they missed so much and whom they would never see again." (emphasis mine).
So, even if there is a survivor of the Baudelaire fire, and that survivor is one of the Baud parents, the Bauds are never going to see him/her again. Right? Discuss."
I highly doubt Snicket thought about that sort of stuff when he was writing TMM, as it's very early in the series. That's why there's a TBBRE, cuz he didn't really know when he was writing TBB that the series would turn out to be so...what they are.
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Post by The World Is Quiet Here on Dec 1, 2005 21:26:05 GMT -5
For some reason I always thought that Jacques was the survivor of the Baud fire and both the parents were dead. Olaf had visited them that day but he wasn't the survivor, he started the fire as he was disgruntled with the Baud parents and his visit not having the outcome he was hoping for...whatever that was. After Olaf left Jacques came the fire started he escaped but couldn't save the Baud parents. Later in TVV he came to tell the Bauds about it but was killed, mistaken for Olaf...
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