Theory: Revenge

[hanzo]

I think this hasn't been discussed yet... Well, Olaf is trying to find the Baudelaires and the sugarbowl, but why? I was thinking about and this was the theory that popped into my mind: The Baudelaire mother was actually Beatrice and Olaf was in love with her, by some reason she had to scape, change her name and marry Mr. Baudelaire. Olaf discovered that and burnt down the Baudelaire's mansion. However, Mrs. Baudelaire survived and Count Olaf is looking for justice. That's why he would be trying to kill the Baudelaires.

Ps. Sugarbowl would be a nickname for Mrs. Baudelaire.

[Antenora]

I think Olaf's revenge on the Baudelaires has more to do with the murder of his parents by Mr and Mrs Baudelaire at the opera, as described in TPP. (And that would make Beatrice, if she was indeed the Baudelaire mother, probably a good deal older than Olaf, as I think it's implied that his parents were killed when he was young)

"Sugarbowl" isn't a bad nickname, but it's been confirmed that the sugar bowl in question is a literal pottery item.

[hanzo]

When?

[Antenora]

Most of the time, the sugar bowl has been referred to as a "certain tea-set item" or a "small ceramic container" or similar phrases, removing the possibility that it's a person or something even stranger.

[hanzo]

Thanks.

[Dante]

The only implication that Olaf's parents were killed when he was young is that he's referred to as an orphan - but I think that this somewhat out-of-place noun has been applied to Olaf solely to liken him to the Baudelaires.

I'm wondering if Handler might try to make Olaf's motives even more understandable by mentioning the corrupt actions of other supposedly noble people - maybe Monty's snakes could have provided the poison for the poison darts - but it doesn't seem necessary, and therefore is unlikely.

Edit: Actually, there was one more - the "your mother once told me the same thing, but one day, when I was seven years old" comment. Still, I would consider it to be extremely strange for Count Olaf to actually be much younger than the Baudelaire parents.

Edit Again: so, our current Beatrice thread remains this one, so that matter, if it is going to be discussed in-depth, should be discussed there.

[lauren]

I had a theory like this a while ago....except it was the reverse with esme wanting the revenge because she was in love with lemony who fell in love with Beatrice....anywhos I think it would be very interesting if the sugarbowl was actually a nickname rather than an object....but as Antenora noted it hase been described as an object a number of times....and I do believe now Olaf was picking on them because their parents killed his parents. Hmmmm but that still doesn't justify Olaf, burning down the Powdered face women's house and the Quagmire house (actually I don't know wether that was him who burnt down the Quags house but mer)

[Sugary Snicket]

(LOL I can imagine Mr. Baudelaire calling his wife Sugarbowl, tho. )

Good idea Lauren. But how about the Quags and the WFW all were out of anger? He got really angry and burned down their houses without thinking because he was mad. Lame idea, I know.....

[twistedbrain]

He's burnt down more houses than just those two, so it couldn't have been out of rage.

[lauren]

Purhaps it started of as rage/revenge but soon his pyromania turned into a habit. He thought he had already burned down one house so there was no guilt stopping him from burning down some more.

[twistedbrain]

Well he has been proven to show some uncertainty about his actions(TPP:"What else can I do?") so I doubt, if that's the case, that he has no guilt whatsoever. Of course, he could have a late-starting conscience, but still, it doesn't seem to be right. I'm not arguing, I could be wrong.

[voguefashion]

I'm not so sure of that theory, wouldn't Beatrice, if she was Olaf's love interest and the mother of the Baudelaire orphans, be a little old for a young Olaf, considering she murdered his parents? I don't know...

[voguefashion]

But, I don't know.

[twistedbrain]

Use the modify button next time, please.

[fadingfawkes]

Hah, this theory is similar to the one with Harry Potter and how Lord Voldemort was in love with Lily Potter, which caused her death somehow o__O.