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Post by LargeManFeOrMale on May 26, 2006 10:48:10 GMT -5
How could she not return? Then she would of never had any other reason for existence except Klaus's love interest.
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Post by beatriceblake on May 26, 2006 17:26:12 GMT -5
In terms of plot structure it makes absolute sense to bring Fiona and Fernald back. They are morally ambiguous since they let the Baudelaires escape but then joined Olaf and double- crossed him. There is a strong suspense element and a need for closure. There is also the fact that Fiona was Klaus' romantic interest in The Grim Grotto and the fact that there is evidence to suggest Fiona and Fernald had a confrontation with the hopefully living and reunited Quagmires.
I do not doubt plots will fall by the way side in Book 13 but I would be amazed if Fiona and Fernald do not directly appear. Arguably the Baudelaires have more in common with Fiona and Fernald than the Quagmires now they have taken to doing whatever it takes to survive.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jun 7, 2006 21:15:04 GMT -5
It does make sense for them to return. It'd be a gaping plothole if they didn't and even with his passion for "figure it out yourself" I doubt even handler would keep them out entirely.
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Post by pullerofstrings on Sept 21, 2006 13:06:45 GMT -5
About Kit waterskiing to captain Widdershins, I think she entrusted him with the sugar bowl as it was hinted in chapter 10 of TPP that the smoking cabdriver was LS, with the sugar bowl in the car (retrieved from the pond) and a woman in the trunk. That woman may have been Kit, and if I'm right, that would explain how Widdershins, Phil, Fiona, Fernald, the sugar bowl and "the woman" fit into "The End".
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Post by SadOccasion on Sept 23, 2006 10:24:24 GMT -5
I really hope that Fiona and Fernald appear in Book the Thirteenth - aside from the Quaqmire triplets and Hector, they would be the characters I would be most dissapointed not to see again, mainly because there has been so much evidence supporting their return up to this point.
I think Fiona and Fernald will be important pieces of the "moral ambiguity" puzzle raised in B12, and I also believe that Fernald's belief that people are neither good nor wicked will be proven wrong in a tragic and ironic way, true to Snicket's writing style.
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Post by Summer Wind on Sept 24, 2006 13:11:47 GMT -5
It does make sense for them to return. It'd be a gaping plothole if they didn't and even with his passion for "figure it out yourself" I doubt even handler would keep them out entirely. Agreed, what's the point in bringing them out, without giving Fiona and Fernald any resoulotion? |
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Post by pullerofstrings on Sept 25, 2006 15:41:41 GMT -5
Oh my... Someone correct me if there's a hole in this theory, but I just have the feeling that Fionas mother is Beatrice and she is the young Beatrice from TBL... Think about it; she was surprised when the Hook-handed man revealed himself as Fernald. Maybe he's posing as her brother as part of a sick scheme to get at the Baudelaires and their allies from within. After all, there's a recurring theme of betrayal in every book, and that would explain why he was mentioned attacking the Quagmires in TPP. If Fiona is who I think she is, that would explain why TBL says she was what kept Klaus going after the Hotel Denouement fire. Also, when Widdershins and Phil fled the submarine in The Grim Grotto, we knew it must have been someone important visiting them to convince him to leave them: maybe it was the old Beatrice? (Though if she is already dead, it could have been an alive aunt Josephine).
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Post by Dante on Sept 25, 2006 15:57:18 GMT -5
Think about it; she was surprised when the Hook-handed man revealed himself as Fernald. He didn't "reveal" himself; they walked into the room and she recognised him. She was surprised to see him - probably because he was long-lost and she hadn't seen him for years and probably didn't expect to ever see him again - but they recognised each other immediately, and there's never any question in Fiona's mind as to his identity. Also of note is that the Baudelaires recognised young Fernald as being, well, young Fernald on the photograph they found with the Queequeg's secret books. Plus, if it was a scheme to get at the Baudelaires and their allies from within, it wasn't a very good one, on account of Fernald and Fiona leave the Baudelaires while still on the Carmelita, after only about five minutes working together, and when they show up on the Queequeg later Fernald is blatantly antagonistic, and for Fiona there's no question of leaving him. |
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Post by pullerofstrings on Sept 26, 2006 2:43:35 GMT -5
Whoops. Obbviously my memory of TGG is a bit hazy; sorry about that. Though I stand by the other things I said, especially as (I think) Esme stated in TGG that she was friends with Fionas mother at school (or maybe she only said it to stop Fiona from throwing a tantrum over Esme stealing her mothers' ring).
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Post by Dante on Sept 26, 2006 10:21:46 GMT -5
especially as ( I think) Esme stated in TGG that she was friends with Fionas mother at school (or maybe she only said it to stop Fiona from throwing a tantrum over Esme stealing her mothers' ring). Esmé did indeed say that, and I like to think that she meant it (no matter how confusing it makes the chronology) - it came up in this thread, which might interest you. |
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Post by pullerofstrings on Sept 26, 2006 12:49:23 GMT -5
Thank you; I did indeed find that very interesting... I'm sure that some light will be shed on the truth in the final book; it's apparently the longest book (barely beating TPP), and even though there's a lot to resolve, Snicket can answer all of the lingering questions in 368 pages. It's not impossible, and as this is the end of the series, I expect the trend of Snicket avoiding the answers to questions to disappear, just like the Baudelaires' misfortune (we're certain that they all survive "The End", thanks to TBL, so it's safe to assume that their bad luck ends with this book).
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Post by Semesther, the Dolphin Vampire on Oct 14, 2006 23:34:38 GMT -5
I hope they will be back I like them. And the Qaugmires too.
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Post by superorange on Oct 15, 2006 13:57:16 GMT -5
I don't like Fiona at all, if she comes up I'll hiss in fury and glare at the pages as I read until she goes away or turns good again. I hate Fiona too! She is way, way, way, to(sp?) old for Klaus. Yeah, 1-2 years is like, WAAAY too old. *ROLLS EYES* |
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Post by Semesther, the Dolphin Vampire on Oct 15, 2006 16:30:58 GMT -5
She not that mach older than Klaus.
Is anyone listening.
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Post by Tigerclaw can drive a car :B on Oct 26, 2006 19:16:30 GMT -5
I don't hate Fiona. She's just missunderstood.... I just noticed I look a lot like her.  |
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