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Post by jman on Nov 21, 2006 20:08:51 GMT -5
Yes, you're right, that could be possible. Actually, come to think of it, I rather like the idea.
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noble
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Post by noble on Nov 22, 2006 1:01:20 GMT -5
Is lemoney noble? it would make a HUGE twist if he was evil.....honestly i think he is. Those who have read TBL and understand its deeper meaning should agree with me
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Post by Milk on Nov 22, 2006 7:25:19 GMT -5
hahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahah ok now thats fantastic !! Brilliant idea really it is !!
Ok i also think it would have been better if they were killed i really like the ending but i felt he was going a little soft.
Oh and it seriously bugged me that i never found out who the principal was at vice principal Nero's school. Oh and why wasn't Klaus called Lemony ?!
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Post by Dante on Nov 22, 2006 9:56:59 GMT -5
Presumably, after returning to the mainland, the Baudelaire parents learned that Lemony wasn't dead. In fact, Lemony's telegram in TBL to Mrs. Baudelaire, at the time of her first pregnancy, may have alerted them to the fact that he was still alive (if they figured it was him). It's worth noting that Lemony didn't know if they were alive until shortly before sending that same telegram.
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Post by jman on Nov 22, 2006 18:57:49 GMT -5
What a book! What a series! So many mysteries and intricacies...
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Post by beatriceblake on Nov 23, 2006 19:58:56 GMT -5
Is lemoney noble? it would make a HUGE twist if he was evil.....honestly i think he is. Those who have read TBL and understand its deeper meaning should agree with me Lemony can't be secretly completely immoral/amoral and the author of the books because if he was secretly evil he would never present himself as such. So logically: 1) Lemony is more morally dubious than we think but alters the books' events to fit his perceptions of hismelf and the other characters. 2) Lemony is a bad person but "Lemony Snicket" is another character... Personally I don't think TBL tells us Lemony is evil. I think Beatrice the younger doesn't believe Lemony's accounts of things because the Baudelaires didn't tell her about the various misdeeds they have committed.
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Post by jman on Nov 25, 2006 17:15:14 GMT -5
I think Snicket is trying to show us something: in TE, Olaf says that if the Bauds free him, he will tell them secrets that they could never find out by themselves. Yet the Baudelaires find "ASOUE" and read it, answering questions. The Bauds don't need Olaf's help.
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Post by Phoenix 4242424242424242424242 on Nov 28, 2006 18:02:26 GMT -5
Wasn't it bizarre that the most commonly discussed theory proved true? I'm convinced that Daniel Handler is a frequent guest or maybe even a member of DA 667. It would make sense wouldn't it?
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Post by beatriceblake on Nov 28, 2006 18:17:15 GMT -5
Not really although it would be wicked cool if it were true.
The astute readers picked up a hanging plot thread and followed it to a logical conclusion. Lemony had to have a strong motive for writing about the Baudelaires in such detail and for telling a tale he allegedly did not want to.
Therefore they had to be either related to him in some way and being Beatrice's children was an easy option. The twist is that they were also the de facto guardians of his young niece Miss Beatrice Baudelaire.
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Post by SnicketFires on Nov 28, 2006 21:48:11 GMT -5
Wasn't it bizarre that the most commonly discussed theory proved true? I'm convinced that Daniel Handler is a frequent guest or maybe even a member of DA 667. It would make sense wouldn't it? The penultimate time I saw Daniel Handler, I asked him if he'd ever visited 667. He said that yes, he'd visited it, but not contributed. (I thought it would have been super funny if he'd read our Daniel Handler, 667 Lurker? thread.)
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Nov 30, 2006 22:01:00 GMT -5
Ooh. It would've been nice if he'd seen that thread. I don't think Lemony's evil, otherwise why would he be writing about the Baudelaires in such a good light? He'd be trying to discredit them wouldn't he? But we must allow that he isn't perfect. Obviously he's determined to hate Olaf and focuses only on Olaf's negative attributes. And, as he said in LSUA, he's naturally biased in the case of Beatrice and so only focuses on her positive attributes. Indeed, wasn't one of the thirteen shocking secrets that Lemony helped Beatrice commit a crime?
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Post by silentcacophony on Dec 11, 2006 1:39:36 GMT -5
Weyden-- famous Flemish painter. So is this the FFP I hear so much about on this forum?
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Post by Dante on Dec 11, 2006 4:45:37 GMT -5
So is this the FFP I hear so much about on this forum? No, although that was an interesting coincidence. We're usually referring to the Female Finnish Pirates (notes to page 116-117 (from The Bad Beginning Rare Edition)).
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Dec 12, 2006 21:47:45 GMT -5
That can't be a coincidence. I'm guessing Violet ran into them on the way back to Briny Beach from the island shortly after The End?
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Post by RockSunner on Dec 20, 2006 20:31:45 GMT -5
The fate of the Baudelaires wasc left open-ended without any mention of the promised pirates, but that's as good a speculation as any.
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