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Post by RockSunner on Nov 6, 2006 23:55:43 GMT -5
There are only two Beatrice Baudelaires. Whenever Lemony writes of Beatrice "like a lover", he is referring to the older one, his former fiancee, who married Bertrand Baudelaire and was the mother of Violet, Klaus, and Sunny.
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fearmi
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Post by fearmi on Nov 11, 2006 16:45:00 GMT -5
if bertrand is married to beatrice than why is lemony snicket writing about her
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Post by RockSunner on Nov 11, 2006 19:08:21 GMT -5
Maybe because he never stopped loving her? He's quite obsessive.
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Post by Sora on Nov 11, 2006 19:13:04 GMT -5
Yes, most people who love someone deeply love them forever.
So who survived. who was it in the Snicket File that lived on? We know that Bertrand is dead and so is Beatrice, so could it be Lemony? We know everyone thought he was dead, so could they have been reffering to him on Page 13. This has really got me stumped and thinking since the end of The End.
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Post by Semesther, the Dolphin Vampire on Nov 12, 2006 10:39:13 GMT -5
Quigley is the one who surived.
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Post by Sora on Nov 13, 2006 2:48:29 GMT -5
No dear I don't think so. Quigley's family wasn't even mentioned in the Snicket File, so i doubt it. i think it was someone in the photo on page 13 that survived, and since Jacques, Beatrice and Bertrand are dead, we have to assume it's Lemony.
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Post by Dante on Nov 13, 2006 3:54:31 GMT -5
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Post by esther on Nov 29, 2006 9:36:00 GMT -5
another question (sorry if someone else has mentioned it, im new here): why is olaf so obsessed with stealing the baudelaire fortune and not one that is..easier to steal?
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Post by Dante on Nov 29, 2006 9:44:21 GMT -5
We know from something Madame Lulu said that Olaf was once confident he could steal the Quagmire fortune and the Snicket fortune, but was apparently never successful. It seems that stealing fortunes is difficult work in general in this setting. It's also possible that he was pursuing other fortunes at the same time as the Baudelaire fortune, as he apparently was with the Quagmire fortune (kidnapping Duncan and Isadora, planning to keep them on an island until they were of age) - we just see his life from the point of view of the Baudelaires, and while he's around them most of his energies will be focussed on their fortune. There's also the possibility of a personal vendetta due to the apparent murder of his own parents by Bertrand and Beatrice (and it's also been suggested that they did so to steal his family fortune, although I don't believe there's any evidence for that save the interesting symmetry).
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Nov 30, 2006 22:10:07 GMT -5
It wouldn't make sense for Olaf to have a fortune, why would he need to steal another one? Of course one could always argue that he unwisely spent it, but on what? He's got no luxury at all in tbb.
How do you know the Quagmires weren't mentioned in the Snicket File? There are 13 data loaded pages and we've only seen one.
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Post by Dear Dairy on Nov 30, 2006 22:25:53 GMT -5
Didn't TSS indicate that Olaf planned to steal the fortunes of the Snow Scouts, also? I think he's just a greedy guy with a one-track mind. That doesn't mean he has no fortune of his own. Maybe he just wanted to spend it on things other than his house, such as producing plays. Perhaps it was tied up in some kind of banking or trust fund snafu.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Dec 1, 2006 22:32:56 GMT -5
It's possible.
But maybe there's a deeper reasoning behind Olaf's chasing fortunes. Maybe he does so to bring down those who possess them or maybe he even does it to meet old VFDers again. He can't find them in any other way so he hunts down their fortunes? No, that doesn't even make sense.
I think at some point he just allowed his greed to take over. But the Baudelaires taught him after awhile(well, the whole series) that it wasn't really going to work.
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Post by idiotj on Dec 21, 2006 22:39:12 GMT -5
Rawr. Is it safe to eat raw toast?
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Post by 2yoshi101 on Dec 29, 2006 9:58:27 GMT -5
"And a refrigerator may hold a basket of strawberries, which would be important if a maniac said to you, "If you don't give me a basket of strawberries right now, I'm going to poke you with this large stick." But when the two elder Baudelaires and Quigley Quagmire opened the refrigerator, they found nothing that would help someone who was wounded, dying of thirst, or being thratened by a strawberry-crazed, stick-carrying maniac."
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camirox
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Post by camirox on Apr 15, 2007 7:49:52 GMT -5
I think that Olaf and Kit might have been togther before but in the Twelfth book, When Dewey dies, it says something about him leaving his pregnant wife behid. I think that Kit and Dewey were married and that Beatirice2 is really the child of Dewey.
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