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Post by philodendron on May 8, 2022 6:08:35 GMT -5
Hello folks - I am new to this, and not sure if this is the place to reply to everyone who commented. Yes it is a real account, I joined only last night after googling "Was Lee Harvey Oswald Sexy?" (which I do now and then just to see what comes up) and it led me RIGHT to this site. Specifically to this thread called "Lee Harvey Oswald is Hot." Posted by someone who appears not to be a member anymore, in 2006. I immediately joined so that I could excitedly agree and expound on how and WHY he was hot, at least in my eyes, for anyone to read. To try and address your questions/comments: Semblamce: Ha ha no I don't think a book would be in order, since I doubt I could really fill that many pages about his looks, it would get quite redundant. However, I would love to have a book done containing all my art about Lee, a good fifteen years worth, edited of course, and my explanations of my constructs about him and how and why he has worked his way into my life. As an artist, when I get obsessed, get OBSESSED. My first and earliest obsession was "The Poseidon Adventure" (1972). For years there were drawings, parties re-enacting it, models, dioramas, and ultimately a cheesy VHS feature length movie in which I play all the characters (yes, even Shelley Winters). It was total immersion and allowed me to "live it" in my own way. Same with my obsession for the American 1950's - I had to have my house look like it, have my cupboards filled with the vintage product packaging, and do a huge photo series in which again, I play various characters of the era, men, women, vague background people, ALL wearing the actual vintage clothing (which was easy and cheap to find then) and "live" the period, again, in my own, peculiar and quirky way, but still, total immersion. There are many other such obsessions but those are the larger ones, and then came Lee, in 2007. So, you see, I take my 'subjects' seriously! As far as what draws me other than the physical - well, again, there is not a whole lot of substance to latch onto. If I wished I could read even more books than I already have, and get pretty much the same grim picture as all the others paint (save for one one or two, and Ernst Titovets' book). What keeps me going is how he inspires me to do yet more with the digital Lee and Paul world I have created, our domestic and tasteful coexistence together, and, the Wee Lee doll (which you see in my avatar, peeking from behind a - yes - philodendron). Wee Lee has quite the following, interestingly, and many tend to forget his namesake even though he IS Lee, only reinvented if you will. I have chosen to paint "my" Lee as innocent, first and foremost, and, beyond that, I attribute positive traits to him, both to all my Wee Lee doll(s), and, the fantasy male I like to intimate exists here with me in my 1950's era home, almost like Harvey the rabbit. "My" Lee is kind. Gentle. Bemused. Curious. Nerdy. Brave. Strong. Clumsy. Suave. Great at the Cha Cha, eats healthy where I eat bad, and of course, VERY handsome, that goes without saying. So, it is his reinvention that fuels my continuing interest. I do a TON of digital art, using his head on other bodies, creating goofy scenes and of course very provocative, hairy boudoir shots. As far as the dolls - Wee Lee gets into a lot of things, and a "mini me" doll of myself ("Small Paul") often acts as sidekick or BFF or just a buddy. Some of Wee Lee's adventures include capsizing on the SS Poseidon, of course, in a scale model set built to resemble the dining salon at new year's in the movie. He saves most everyone of course, merely by finding a ladder conveniently standing in the corner instead of trying to climb an unwieldy Christmas Tree. Wee Lee is clever that way. In another scenario he plays both leads in the motion picture "South Pacific." In yet another, he digs a bomb shelter, and is torn when Small Paul (me) wants to move in too, and bring all his wigs. Because of course anyone would want all their wigs down in a bomb shelter just in case. Another decidedly ridiculous but loving chronicle shows how to properly raise a pet Oswald, from a tiny full grown man living in a shoebox with a warming lamp, to a slightly larger full grown man running in a hamster wheel, and nursing a bottle feeder of an upside-down Dr. Pepper bottle attached to the side of his glass enclosure. He...doesn't really get much bigger than that because HE IS Wee Lee, but it's an excuse to feature a lot of my cool vintage toys he is able to fit into, like dollhouses, Barbie's 1961 Mercedes, and so on. The series also discusses getting him his dogtags, ID, proper injections, and proper nutritional needs, as any pet would require. So there is that. LOTS of photos taken of course documenting these dioramas and storylines, and never once a reference to guns or distasteful topics. In fact, I exhibited 12 or 14 of my Lee Oswald action figures in the Phoenix Art Museum back in 2012, and I had one Lee dressed as Captain Kirk (torn shirt of course!), and that particular doll has a very intense, focused face, and the figure so asked for a phaser but I did not want to do that. I debated various ridiculous items, including table lamps and even a floor lamp, but I opted instead for a tiny Enterprise model, as if he were just playing. The child at heart. The curator named that piece herself, "To Boldy Go." And, again, after that show was over, I was unexpectedly moved to do an entire Star Trek series with Lee as Kirk, getting into many absurd scenarios spoofing many key episodes. I never know when these inspirations will strike or where he will take me - so, you see, it is almost MY Lee rather than the real man who carries me through the years. Naturally I still look at his pictures and wonder what he would be like in real life, his size, his scent, his general disposition, depending on how and where I met him, but mostly my version of his character is what makes him live on. And of this I am not afraid to say I am proud - I would like to think wherever he is, he is aware of this on some level and might get a kick out of it. As I said, I REALLY want him to be innocent of all wrongdoing, all the murders and attempted ones, but. My personal opinion is - and a lot of you are NOT going to like this - that we will never know. JFK, CIA, FBI, a man behind a wood fence, an umbrella man, Allan Dulles - we are never going to know. A friend who was "over it" as she put it once said to me "Why go over it and over it all? Dead is dead. John Kennedy is Dead. Oswald is dead. No one is going to believe any 'new information' that comes to light, everything will always be questioned and doubted, dead is dead." I think about that a lot. I agree. That would address your question, Bryan, as far as my take on the assassination. In my construct with Lee, I do not eschew or ignore the events of 1963, it's simply that my agenda is an artistic one, not a political one. Lastly, Miserable Mariner, you are correct, Lee did look a lot older, and, frankly I kinda dig that. I would rather he be 34 than 24, personally. Though he was quite worldly what with all the places he'd been and things he'd done, I would prefer some more years on him. Make absolutely sure that brain stem is attached (as they say happens AT 24!) and he is thinking and acting sensibly. Okay so this was far from a "Quick Reply" so maybe I SHOULD consider a book about Lee's Secondary Sex Characteristics after all...
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Post by philodendron on May 8, 2022 6:11:05 GMT -5
I'm not sure what's making me laugh more; the insanely long ruminations on LHO'S body hair, or Resemblance so politely thanking this person for their research lmao Hee hee! I know, it even makes ME laugh, though I take Lee Oswald's body hair (and the rest of him) very seriously; Semblance was terribly kind to thank me I thought. This is information that needs to be known. It's not going to solve a THING but it needs to be known. (Maybe)
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Post by twigz on May 8, 2022 7:17:35 GMT -5
this is a little fruity
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Post by bryan on May 8, 2022 9:14:25 GMT -5
a LITTLE?
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Post by bryan on May 8, 2022 9:16:10 GMT -5
have you ever seen Assassins the musical?
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Post by Esmé's meme is meh on May 8, 2022 16:30:06 GMT -5
Omg is this a Sondheim thread now?
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Post by Reba on May 8, 2022 17:17:55 GMT -5
Hello folks - I am new to this, and not sure if this is the place to reply to everyone who commented. Yes it is a real account, I joined only last night after googling "Was Lee Harvey Oswald Sexy?" (which I do now and then just to see what comes up) and it led me RIGHT to this site. Specifically to this thread called "Lee Harvey Oswald is Hot." Posted by someone who appears not to be a member anymore, in 2006. I immediately joined so that I could excitedly agree and expound on how and WHY he was hot, at least in my eyes, for anyone to read. To try and address your questions/comments: Semblamce: Ha ha no I don't think a book would be in order, since I doubt I could really fill that many pages about his looks, it would get quite redundant. However, I would love to have a book done containing all my art about Lee, a good fifteen years worth, edited of course, and my explanations of my constructs about him and how and why he has worked his way into my life. As an artist, when I get obsessed, get OBSESSED. My first and earliest obsession was "The Poseidon Adventure" (1972). For years there were drawings, parties re-enacting it, models, dioramas, and ultimately a cheesy VHS feature length movie in which I play all the characters (yes, even Shelley Winters). It was total immersion and allowed me to "live it" in my own way. Same with my obsession for the American 1950's - I had to have my house look like it, have my cupboards filled with the vintage product packaging, and do a huge photo series in which again, I play various characters of the era, men, women, vague background people, ALL wearing the actual vintage clothing (which was easy and cheap to find then) and "live" the period, again, in my own, peculiar and quirky way, but still, total immersion. There are many other such obsessions but those are the larger ones, and then came Lee, in 2007. So, you see, I take my 'subjects' seriously! As far as what draws me other than the physical - well, again, there is not a whole lot of substance to latch onto. If I wished I could read even more books than I already have, and get pretty much the same grim picture as all the others paint (save for one one or two, and Ernst Titovets' book). What keeps me going is how he inspires me to do yet more with the digital Lee and Paul world I have created, our domestic and tasteful coexistence together, and, the Wee Lee doll (which you see in my avatar, peeking from behind a - yes - philodendron). Wee Lee has quite the following, interestingly, and many tend to forget his namesake even though he IS Lee, only reinvented if you will. I have chosen to paint "my" Lee as innocent, first and foremost, and, beyond that, I attribute positive traits to him, both to all my Wee Lee doll(s), and, the fantasy male I like to intimate exists here with me in my 1950's era home, almost like Harvey the rabbit. "My" Lee is kind. Gentle. Bemused. Curious. Nerdy. Brave. Strong. Clumsy. Suave. Great at the Cha Cha, eats healthy where I eat bad, and of course, VERY handsome, that goes without saying. So, it is his reinvention that fuels my continuing interest. I do a TON of digital art, using his head on other bodies, creating goofy scenes and of course very provocative, hairy boudoir shots. As far as the dolls - Wee Lee gets into a lot of things, and a "mini me" doll of myself ("Small Paul") often acts as sidekick or BFF or just a buddy. Some of Wee Lee's adventures include capsizing on the SS Poseidon, of course, in a scale model set built to resemble the dining salon at new year's in the movie. He saves most everyone of course, merely by finding a ladder conveniently standing in the corner instead of trying to climb an unwieldy Christmas Tree. Wee Lee is clever that way. In another scenario he plays both leads in the motion picture "South Pacific." In yet another, he digs a bomb shelter, and is torn when Small Paul (me) wants to move in too, and bring all his wigs. Because of course anyone would want all their wigs down in a bomb shelter just in case. Another decidedly ridiculous but loving chronicle shows how to properly raise a pet Oswald, from a tiny full grown man living in a shoebox with a warming lamp, to a slightly larger full grown man running in a hamster wheel, and nursing a bottle feeder of an upside-down Dr. Pepper bottle attached to the side of his glass enclosure. He...doesn't really get much bigger than that because HE IS Wee Lee, but it's an excuse to feature a lot of my cool vintage toys he is able to fit into, like dollhouses, Barbie's 1961 Mercedes, and so on. The series also discusses getting him his dogtags, ID, proper injections, and proper nutritional needs, as any pet would require. So there is that. LOTS of photos taken of course documenting these dioramas and storylines, and never once a reference to guns or distasteful topics. In fact, I exhibited 12 or 14 of my Lee Oswald action figures in the Phoenix Art Museum back in 2012, and I had one Lee dressed as Captain Kirk (torn shirt of course!), and that particular doll has a very intense, focused face, and the figure so asked for a phaser but I did not want to do that. I debated various ridiculous items, including table lamps and even a floor lamp, but I opted instead for a tiny Enterprise model, as if he were just playing. The child at heart. The curator named that piece herself, "To Boldy Go." And, again, after that show was over, I was unexpectedly moved to do an entire Star Trek series with Lee as Kirk, getting into many absurd scenarios spoofing many key episodes. I never know when these inspirations will strike or where he will take me - so, you see, it is almost MY Lee rather than the real man who carries me through the years. Naturally I still look at his pictures and wonder what he would be like in real life, his size, his scent, his general disposition, depending on how and where I met him, but mostly my version of his character is what makes him live on. And of this I am not afraid to say I am proud - I would like to think wherever he is, he is aware of this on some level and might get a kick out of it. As I said, I REALLY want him to be innocent of all wrongdoing, all the murders and attempted ones, but. My personal opinion is - and a lot of you are NOT going to like this - that we will never know. JFK, CIA, FBI, a man behind a wood fence, an umbrella man, Allan Dulles - we are never going to know. A friend who was "over it" as she put it once said to me "Why go over it and over it all? Dead is dead. John Kennedy is Dead. Oswald is dead. No one is going to believe any 'new information' that comes to light, everything will always be questioned and doubted, dead is dead." I think about that a lot. I agree. That would address your question, Bryan, as far as my take on the assassination. In my construct with Lee, I do not eschew or ignore the events of 1963, it's simply that my agenda is an artistic one, not a political one. Lastly, Miserable Mariner, you are correct, Lee did look a lot older, and, frankly I kinda dig that. I would rather he be 34 than 24, personally. Though he was quite worldly what with all the places he'd been and things he'd done, I would prefer some more years on him. Make absolutely sure that brain stem is attached (as they say happens AT 24!) and he is thinking and acting sensibly. Okay so this was far from a "Quick Reply" so maybe I SHOULD consider a book about Lee's Secondary Sex Characteristics after all... This salsa is too good though I would watch a documentary about you
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Post by philodendron on May 8, 2022 19:17:34 GMT -5
have you ever seen Assassins the musical? Yes. I used to be a set designer/scenic painter, and that was one of the shows I had to work on. Naturally I was heavily suggesting how the (blonde!!!) actor playing Lee should have his makeup done, etc. I was not entirely unamused, it had its moments. I was surprised Lee was the one all the others were rooting for, the one Booth chatted up so heavily, as if he would be the successful "winner" that would make all the others even more infamous or something. But I did enjoy the other goofballs who failed, like the KFC lady and the grumpy Santa, as I recall.
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Post by philodendron on May 8, 2022 19:21:24 GMT -5
Thank you very much for your extensive work on this. This subject seems very important to you, and with all of your documentation, do you plan on composing a book on the matter? Perhaps you could even get an interview with Mr. Ernst. If I may ask, what draws you to him? Other than his looks, of course. I can't fathom his physical appearance swaying you that much, after what he did. Hello - well, I am still getting the hang of how to respond to messages, last night I found a section under all the comments since I posted about his looks and tried to reply to everyone THERE, but, maybe I did it wrong. But a little bit ago I discovered this "quote" feature, so I would be glad to copy-paste the part of my reply that applies specifically to you if you wish. - Paul (Phil O Dendron)
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Post by philodendron on May 8, 2022 19:36:45 GMT -5
Oh, no, I read your reply. I appreciate you asking though. Don't worry about getting used to the site, you're already doing much better than when I first signed up. Oh my stars!! Yes it is difficult to navigate when finding things again after turning a page or refreshing one, etc. So is the proper protocol to reply to each individual as I did you, clicking on "quote" and writing a reply? Was it just sheer accident that you came upon my lengthy "quick reply" or is that also a means by which one replies to several posts which pose similar or related questions/comments? Not sure what the best method is. Thank you.
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Post by philodendron on May 8, 2022 21:22:47 GMT -5
When there are several people you want to reply to at once, you could create a lengthy post and address each of them after tagging each person. Another option would be to click on the "Select button" and then reply to each one in one giant post. When replying to the person above you, it probably isn't needed to quote them, unless you want to bring attention to a specific point. But I guess there isn't any real reason not to! So, a quick reply is just a normal reply but you have to manually add effects. In a quick reply, if you wanted to add italics, you would have [ i ] word here [/ I ]. While in a normal reply, you could just press a button to do it. Regardless if you use quick reply or regular reply, you will end up with the same final post. But regular reply is more preferred when working on long posts, or if you want to quote multiple people. I hope this makes sense and has answered your questions. I'm terribly sorry for hitting "quote" again to reply to you answer, but so far I am finding that the only way to do so! I am not able to find a "Select Button." When you say "click on the 'Select Button' and then reply to each one in one giant post," that sounds not unlike what I did via the "Quick Reply" feature as I did late last night. I wish I could highlight a single sentence within a comment too, such that your entire reply is not above my answer, as that of course would get tiresome. I don't mind not having the ability to use "effects" in Quick Reply, as I tend to imply emphasis by using good old CAPS, as if I were speaking with a real voice. Not that I am prone to yelling in casual conversation but, you know what I mean. So for now, until I get the hang of this, is Quick Reply the best way to go? Oh but then not everyone would see it necessarily, and that is yet another thing I do not know, is how to tag individuals. Oh dear...
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Post by Esmé's meme is meh on May 8, 2022 21:24:03 GMT -5
Okay so we know you think Lee Harvey Oswald is hot philodendron, but are YOU hot?
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Post by philodendron on May 9, 2022 1:10:21 GMT -5
Or, if you're using a computer, hover your mouse over their username. Oh my stars yes a computer, always a computer, a HUGE desktop with a GIANT monitor and a VAST keyboard. I don't own a Mobile Device. (Oh look, it looks like I replied to you correctly using only one sentence I wished to reply to! Cool! Maybe this is starting to make sense; I do appreciate very much your help in this!) Anyway, the Mobile Devices befuddle me even more with their itsy bitsy keys and all the icons (and it has a gear wheel too) and tiny picture area. And I can tell, generally, when someone in Facebook Messenger is using a Mobile Device because after I type a paragraph, I see a symbol that means they are typing....typing...typing....And I eagerly await their reply, only to get a "LOL." Argh. Plus with my art I need a vast monitor, otherwise how am I going to make Lee Harvey's exquisitely fine chest hairs catch the sunlight just so? Sunlit chest hair is a sight to behold, and on Lee, well... Again I thank you much for your assistance in the technical aspects here!
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Post by philodendron on May 9, 2022 1:22:38 GMT -5
Okay so we know you think Lee Harvey Oswald is hot philodendron , but are YOU hot? Oh my. Well, Sort-a-goose, I guess that is subjective, I don't think so unless I look at older photographs, at least 20 years old, and think "WOW my beard is brown, I'm skinny, and could fit INTO that awesome 1950's dinner jacket that I sold years ago." The photo of Lee and myself and attached to my general response to all late last night, taken maybe 2014 or so, I don't look bad, I don't think, given my escalated age. Note I am holding a doll of myself (in the same spotted jacket) and a doll of Lee (in same brown sweater). So I'll let you be the judge, just be kind or say nothing .
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Post by bryan on May 9, 2022 2:56:51 GMT -5
This salsa is too good though I would watch a documentary about you u made this thread right?
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