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Post by Invisible on Apr 20, 2016 15:37:03 GMT -5
Hmm. I suppose that guy could work. ...It just all depends on what his make-up and costume/s look like.
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Post by crono288 on Apr 20, 2016 21:39:59 GMT -5
I agree! I feel that there have been cultural developments since the character was written and I'd be very interested to see if 'Orlando' were given more depth and complexity in light of this. Although, this article references the character as they're named in the movie- perhaps androgyny won't be such a big part of their character in the series. Forgive my ignorance, but I'm curious, where does the "Orlando" nickname come from? This thread is the first place I can remember seeing it.
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Post by Esmé's meme is meh on Apr 20, 2016 22:01:30 GMT -5
I agree! I feel that there have been cultural developments since the character was written and I'd be very interested to see if 'Orlando' were given more depth and complexity in light of this. Although, this article references the character as they're named in the movie- perhaps androgyny won't be such a big part of their character in the series. Forgive my ignorance, but I'm curious, where does the "Orlando" nickname come from? This thread is the first place I can remember seeing it. Sunny calls they "Orlando", being Orlando the famous character of Virginia Woolf
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Post by Poe's Coats Host Toast on Apr 21, 2016 2:25:06 GMT -5
Interesting- if this is accurate, the henchperson's presumably not giant (can't tell), so the spookiness would hypothetically still come from their undetermined gender. Not that this can't be dealt with respectfully, but it'd be interesting to see how they deal with the issue. EDIT: It is accurate and he's not giant. EDIT: He's very tall. So perhaps his size will be the threat after all. How is a character being spooky for his unusual height better than being spooky for his vague gender? That's just replacing one stigma for another. I agree with Dante's last post. I would rather focus on the henchpeople's personalities, rather than shifting attention to another physical aspect of theirs.
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Post by Liam R. Findlay on Apr 21, 2016 3:51:07 GMT -5
You're right- it's not better. But with that character, their size comes with their strength, so when the children are being chased by a large person who could hurt them, it's more understandable than being chased by an ambiguously-gendered person who could confuse their young minds.
With this character, I am interested to see if they'll be androgynous or just devoid of an identifiable gender. The version in the film was the former.
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Post by Strangely on Apr 21, 2016 8:32:45 GMT -5
Interesting- if this is accurate, the henchperson's presumably not giant (can't tell), so the spookiness would hypothetically still come from their undetermined gender. Not that this can't be dealt with respectfully, but it'd be interesting to see how they deal with the issue. EDIT: It is accurate and he's not giant. EDIT: He's very tall. So perhaps his size will be the threat after all. How is a character being spooky for his unusual height better than being spooky for his vague gender? That's just replacing one stigma for another. I agree with Dante's last post. I would rather focus on the henchpeople's personalities, rather than shifting attention to another physical aspect of theirs. Remember that Olaf was often portrayed as intimidating for that very reason. It's still a stigma, but it's less offensive than being afraid of someone's gender or apparent lack of. The reality is that nearly all of the troupe is deemed scary for some physical characteristic, so I don't think you can avoid the stigma completely. Perhaps, in addition to exploring the troupe personalities, they'll expand upon the concept of social stigma that Handler explored in the later books with Hugo, Colette and Kevin and apply it to more members of the troupe. Nearly all of the troupe has physical characteristics that would cast them out of the norm, so it would be logical that some of these people have become evil in response to society treating them badly. I mean it's a relevant topic for sure, it's something we see in the real world all the time. Even Olaf and the Baudelaire's were affected by this from time to time.
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