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Post by Duchess of Winnipeg on Jun 26, 2003 13:05:13 GMT -5
Being not-quite-helpful as he is...
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Post by CountQuagmire on Jun 26, 2003 13:23:08 GMT -5
He tries to be helpful, but not in the way the Bauderlire's would like. He's just oblivious to all their real needs.
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Post by Duchess of Winnipeg on Jun 27, 2003 0:33:16 GMT -5
Hmmm, only if Ewsme Squalor is the 6th most important financier, there is great likelyhood that she and Poe have had business dealings, so either he's extremely naive and expounds on where he sends his charges to her over power breakfasts, or she's prodding him for information (not difficult, seeing how dour Mrs Poe is, ahem ahem) or he's easily in cahoots with Count Olaf only certain legalities are preventing them from simply _taking_ the Baudelaire fortune.
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Post by Indistinguishable Blob on Jun 27, 2003 9:25:38 GMT -5
I'd like to think he was evil, but I just don't think so. He's too stupid, and he can't be that great of an actor.
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Post by vfdguyami on Jun 27, 2003 14:12:44 GMT -5
i really doubt poes an evil guy
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Post by Duchess of Winnipeg on Jun 27, 2003 14:23:34 GMT -5
Okay, so let's give Poe the benefit of the doubt: he's too slow to be excruciatingly clever enough to pull the double agent thing off wittingly. What about theory number two: that he's a puppet, the un-knowing thingie... think commerce:
a) Esme Squalor
b) guy inthe cloud of smoke at the miserable mill: who the devil is he?
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Post by Misery on Jul 4, 2003 13:06:03 GMT -5
I think he's just an unhelpful person.
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Post by Duchess of Winnipeg on Jul 4, 2003 14:19:42 GMT -5
that he is unhelpful is evident. the question still remains if he's unwittingly (or even willingly) helping Count Olaf... the other question that's been bugging me lately: Count Olaf used to be (or still is) part of VFD? I'm curious whether thses loose threads and snippets of infor will be resolved within the next 4 books...
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Post by isadora101 on Jul 4, 2003 15:29:24 GMT -5
i wouldnt like it if mrpoe was me guardian
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Post by Duchess of Winnipeg on Jul 4, 2003 19:58:15 GMT -5
thank goodness I'm well-past the need for a legal guardian, I too would hate to have to be under the care of someone as oblivious (or devious) as poe.
as for Olaf as master trainer... that's very interesting... very interesting indeed. Yeah, he's cruel, but all secret agencies do horrible things in the name of training (See The Recruit for some hollywoodized examples)
Hmmm... will have to file that one away 'till I re-read the series again before the next one's out.
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Post by CountQuagmire on Jul 7, 2003 13:54:31 GMT -5
I doubt Olaf is still in VFD because when you look up both Esme and Olaf's names in TUA Index, it says see schism (which I looked up- it means division of a group). Plus, on the VFD meeting script, M says that Olaf and Esme aren't welcome.
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Post by Misery on Jul 21, 2003 13:39:32 GMT -5
Hmm... *looks through book* You've got a point.
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Post by Duchess of Winnipeg on Jul 21, 2003 15:40:33 GMT -5
the point concerning Olaf and Esme is certainly a valid one. I don't recall that Poe was ever at those meetings though...
so it's all still a mystery. Perhaps the next book will offer some insight into Poe's involvment with the Quagmires, Baudelaires and who knows, maybe even the Potters. Mulctuary Money Management and all... still smells fishy to me, but that could just be the power lunches at Salmonella's.
What ever happened to Poe's kids and Mrs. Poe... are they at all involved in the story anymore?
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Post by negativenine on Jul 21, 2003 16:01:09 GMT -5
Interesting point about Poe's obliviousness/possible evilness.
If Poe was a double agent type thing, I don't think he would actually be in VFD. I would have to agree with the puppet thing, if he were (a double agent, I mean).
As for his wife and kids... the Baudelaires should have visited them in between guardians earlier on in the series, shouldn't they have (that's where they went in the first book, after all)? Unless something happened to them... But Poe says something about his wife wanting "In" stuff in book 6, so...
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Post by Pester, Rumormonger on Jul 22, 2003 0:27:19 GMT -5
I think that it's quite possible for someone within the V.F.D. to be controlling Poe, he has after all, given the children "an interesting if confusing childhood" and scattered them around the world, cut off from all those in there former life. It looks like the Baudelaire are going through V.F.D.like training, and Poe is the one who placed them in situations that requires them to learn and use disguises and such. It said at the end of LStUA that "if you have no parents, you will be contacted more directly."
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