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Post by Efogoto on Feb 14, 2004 18:33:38 GMT -5
I came across a news story that in January 2004, the Versailles (New York) post office burned down (and I noted this in the 1485 Columbia Road thread). The I wondered how many towns named Versailles there are in the US ('cause the words "POST OFFICE" in the picture are a huge clue we're not dealing with France here). Here's the list: Versailles Station (historical) California Versailles Connecticut Versailles Illinois Versailles Indiana Versailles Kentucky Versailles Missouri Versailles New York Versailles Ohio Versailles Pennsylvania Versailles Tennessee Versailles Post Office (historical) Tennessee
The Versailles Station in California is in East Oakland, but I don't know if there's a post office there or not.
Searching for Versailles post office Tennessee with Google I found a site with tis quote: "Versailles, located in a isolated remote rural area on the Columbia Dirt Road"
Connecticut isn't all that big and Daniel went to school there, so it's always possible that he took a picture there.
It would be so darn easy to check which I want if only I could find pictures of the post offices of these towns on the web!
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Post by Caterina on Feb 14, 2004 18:53:22 GMT -5
Columbia road is also a place in LSUA, there is a thread out about it to.
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Post by Caterina on Feb 15, 2004 14:57:07 GMT -5
Dont forget about Versailles in other countries though, like Versailles france.
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Post by Caterina on Feb 15, 2004 15:21:40 GMT -5
great observational skills
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Post by Caterina on Feb 15, 2004 15:29:38 GMT -5
thats so cool! yet I couldnt picture al this fhappening in alabama, no offense, but off course you never know, maybe there are V.F.D. in England and America.
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Post by Efogoto on Feb 15, 2004 15:37:41 GMT -5
The part that made me laugh was that I took French in school and have always said "vair SIGH" when pronouncing the word "Versailles". In Tennessee, it's "vur SALES".
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Post by Caterina on Feb 15, 2004 15:40:45 GMT -5
LoLz, that is pretty funny, yeah, I have no knowledge in french, so for a while I was translating it wrong as well. But the thing that makes me wonder, is why does everything seem to be in french, like isnt Versailles a french word, isnt Baudelaire a French name, and in TBBRE in the back there was alot of french, and even a poem in full french, Thats why I believe that VFD may have some connection to Europe.
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Post by Caterina on Feb 15, 2004 15:54:17 GMT -5
LoLz, I am from Washington, the state, and for some reason I alway pictured lake Lachrymose (spelling) as one of the great lakes.
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Post by SnicketFires on Feb 15, 2004 18:40:12 GMT -5
Good work, E and Swans. I think that there is a Versailles Post office on a Columbia road is a rather large coincedence.
Handler loves french, so in his allusions he uses a lot of french. The poem in the back of the RE is la Beatrice, and if you want to see what it means in English, Violet, look around a bit. Theres a bunch of translations in Autobiography, I think.
Why would you think that the Post office picture could have been taken in Canada, swans?
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Post by AgentM on Feb 15, 2004 19:56:57 GMT -5
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Everyone assumes that the books take place in the United States... is there some proof of this?
I looked into TBB and found quite a bit of information about the location. When going to Count Olaf's house, they pass the Royal Gardens (pg. 18). Justice Strauss says she had a case in the High Court (pg. 35). On the letter in the back from Snicket, he says he went to the London Herpetological Society to look for Uncle Monty's reptiles.
To have a Royal Gardens, the country either has or once had a king. The US would not have a "Royal Gardens", because we never had a king. Plus, anyone who remembers their history lessons will recall a strong dislike of the concept of royalty for most of US history. According to A, the High Court is the British equivalent to the United States' Supreme Court (I would appreciate if someone could check this for me and post back). The London Herpetological Society seems rather obvious in itself. Although I have not looked deeply into the other books yet, these all point to ASoUE taking place in Britain, and the City possibly being London. Perhaps someone should look into towns named Versailles in England?
If anyone has reasons why ASoUE does not take place in England or takes place somewhere else, I'd be interested to know.
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Post by Caterina on Feb 15, 2004 23:11:55 GMT -5
I am almost certain of seeing another thread with a link to map quest showing a columbia road in London, I have noticed those clues to, I will try to search to see if I can find the thread.
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Post by Efogoto on Feb 16, 2004 11:42:51 GMT -5
I don't think the ASOUE series takes place in North America I just think most of the LSUA photographs were taken in the U.S. Though there are the stock photographs of London and Peru. I believe that several of the photographs (such as the ones on pages 48 and 49, 52, and 133) were taken by Daniel himself or his parents, and not recently. If that's also true of the Versailles Post Office, then it's likely to be from the towns named Versailles in Connecticut or New York. It is also possible that he travelled in Kentucky or Tennessee and got a picture there. The same reasoning covers Columbia Road. If there's a Columbia Road convenient to San Francisco or Middleton Connecticut, then maybe 1485 Columbia Road will resemble the building in the photograph. It's also possible the photos were taken by somebody else associated with the book, which then spreads the possible locations out quite a bit further. None of this restricts the story of the Baudelaires to the United States or even North America. If Daniel uses photographs of the corner at Silver and Vienna streets in San Francisco but LSTUA says they're from Rarely Ridden Road, then I say they're pictures of Rarely Ridden Road for story purposes. I just thought it was fun to find the location in "the real world".
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Post by Efogoto on Feb 16, 2004 11:45:56 GMT -5
Efogoto, I'm from Texas and I was taught to pronounce it vair sigh. Tennessee and Kentucky are the embarrassment of the south Heck, Kentucky stayed with the north in the War of the Secession/Civil War/War of Northern Aggression. How Southern was that?
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Post by Caterina on Feb 16, 2004 12:24:51 GMT -5
I think Canada would make a lot of sense, and also I was thinking, if it was in England why the heck would they sale to Peru, thats like dangerous long, and we have no clue if there is even a panama canal yet, so it would make much more sense If they were either on the west coast of North America, or The East Coast of Austrailia/NewZealand.
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Post by Caterina on Feb 16, 2004 16:59:31 GMT -5
Yeah, I am just saying that who wants to go around South America, yeah, and if they are sailing across the sea then it probably wounldnt be the Norht American Western Coast. Does the map in LSAU give any clues?
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