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Post by All Due Respect on Oct 30, 2006 21:25:48 GMT -5
Great thread Libitina - this is why you are my FAVORITE moderator moving along Im very sorry about mistreatments Ive done so far but Im glad Libitina expresses my side of things too and now we can really work together.
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Post by descartes on Oct 30, 2006 21:45:18 GMT -5
Libitina isn't a moderator.
But I'm glad that we can agree and stop all the fighting and such.
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Post by Akbar Le Grey on Nov 1, 2006 7:30:44 GMT -5
Okay, good, yzay. Now can we get to the actual governance of the forum?
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Post by Songbird on Nov 1, 2006 10:01:38 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]I think we need a sub admin, and I think that I would be a good candidate in all seriousness. I wouldn't be one permanently just until ADR gets used to things. [/glow]
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Nov 1, 2006 10:27:49 GMT -5
Aren't Global moderators pretty much the same thing as sub-admins?
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Post by Songbird on Nov 1, 2006 13:02:36 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]IDK but I still think I'd be a good candidate ... maybe I'm referring to being an admin because you can have two of them. Again whatever it is it would only be temporary[/glow]
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Post by A. the Returned on Nov 2, 2006 5:20:02 GMT -5
Wow, Songbird, I thought you were better than that. Honestly, helping ADR and then just asking for sub-adminship. It seems pretty much the same thing that ADR yelled at J. for. I don't really think a sub-admin will really help ADR, being thrown in the deep end is usually a better learning tool. Running anything with more than one person usually only creates communication problems. Besides there really is no reason for you or anyone else to have the power, not that I can see at least. ADR seems to be taking care of all of her Admin responsibilities, it's only her decisions that have caused a stir and giving an extra member power isn't going to directly help her make better decisions.
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Post by Songbird on Nov 2, 2006 6:28:49 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]Okay first of all I discussed this already with ADR and telling me that you thought I was better than that...well whatever. ADR and I communicate on a somewhat frequent basis so I don't think that would be an issue and like I said it would only be temporary and I don't even know if it's definite yet so don't insult me, thanks.[/glow]
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Post by PJ on Nov 2, 2006 6:54:35 GMT -5
What's the difference between sub admin and g-mod, anyhow? The way I see it, a G-Mod can do all the important things, modifying, deleting, moving, freezing accounts, changing post counts, that sort of thing, whilst the Admin can do all that, as well as the less urgent things, like making other members into staff members, changing the fader and banner, that sort of thing. It's not like ADR needs help with that, does she?
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Post by Songbird on Nov 2, 2006 10:28:09 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,300]She agreed with me on the idea of having a sub admin. Stop making it seem like I'm power hungry when in reality I'm really trying to help. It's quite agitating how members that portray themselves as power hungry are supported while people like me who are only trying to help get lectured and picked on. [/glow]
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Nov 2, 2006 13:27:04 GMT -5
I don't think you're being power-hungry, Songbird, although the wording and defensive tone you've used could definitely make it appear that way. And PJ's right about not really needing a sub-admin, because Sub-Admin and Global really are extremely similar in nature. As for J.'s attempt to become admin, I peceived it as kind of half-joking, because that's just the way J. is.
If you check the staff members list, you'll see that there are already two admins, so in order to make another admin there'd have to be three, and I don't think Proboards allows that.
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Post by jemima on Nov 3, 2006 18:03:48 GMT -5
Good thread.
The only reason I got upset was because Tragedy totally gave up his powers, and didn't think twice before giving the position. I admit I'm jealous, but only because I can never get a position on 667. Nothing. Zip. Grr...
Bella, you can do an awesome job, but don't take your job lightly, and think hard before you do something big.
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Post by Akbar Le Grey on Nov 4, 2006 2:00:03 GMT -5
Songbird is being subconsciously power-hungry, I think. The feeling that she was never really appreciated has been festering for a long time; not a very surprising response. But still, consciously, she's just trying to be nice.
...psychoanalysis is fun.
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Post by Songbird on Nov 4, 2006 11:16:11 GMT -5
Songbird is being subconsciously power-hungry, I think. The feeling that she was never really appreciated has been festering for a long time; not a very surprising response. But still, consciously, she's just trying to be nice. ...psychoanalysis is fun.[glow=red,2,300]Why does it matter in the first place? I'm not power hungry I just want to help but everyone sees it as something else. I said that it would only be a temporary position but again nobody seems to understand that. The only thing you're right about Akbar is the feeling that I was never really appreciated, and as you can see I'm still not. [/glow]
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Post by Linda Rhaldeen on Nov 4, 2006 15:43:41 GMT -5
There are a lot of people on 667 that feel unappreciated or underappreciated, and there are a lot of people that just want to help, and they probably, unconsciously or not, felt a bit of jealousy when you said you wanted to be sub-admin because they feel that THEY deserve it. And again, your snapping at people isn't helping matters. I presonally think you'd do a good job, but the thing is a lot of other people would too. I think that you would try to hold to your word about it being a temporary position, also, but but then again power does things to people and if you were elected you might find it extremely difficult to let the power go again.
The final decision rests with ADR, of course. Let's hope she thinks things through and weighs the pros and cons of everything so she can do what's best for 667, whether that means promoting Songbird or not.
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