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Post by Amphagorey on Dec 19, 2003 23:22:28 GMT -5
Gahhhhh! I hate when they don't defeat the bad guy, for like a whole season. JUST KILL HIM ALREADY!
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Post by Kobolos on Dec 20, 2003 10:33:14 GMT -5
He won'. Did you see that episode, I think it was a two-part called Apprentice, where Robin worked for Slade so he wouldn't activate the little robots he had placed in the other Titans' bloodstreams. Slade had Robin stealing from him and fighting the other Titans. It was massively cool. And my brother says that Slade is Robin's dad. In the episode "apprentice," Slade says "You may become like a son to me. And who knows? I may become like a father to you." And Robins says "I already have a father." and looks up and you see all these bats flying around. But I think Batman is Robin's adopted da, and Slade's his real dad. As the old Geezer on site, let me lay down some history. This is all from Batman: The Animated Series (1992-1995 The Adventures of Batman and Robin Batman: Gotham Knights (1997-1999) For all intents and purposes, there are two "Animated" Robins. Dick Grayson- the original robin, becomes Nightwinga schism develops between himself and Batman (he later tells the story to the new Robin in "Old Wounds") , Batman later puts his costume in a case, Tim Drake, who is made into an amalgam of the comics Tim Drake and the true second Robin Jason Todd has a father who is in a two bit hood, Drake's father was killed by Two-Face, and like Dick Grayson, Drake teamed up with Batman to fight crime as well as avenge his father's death. When Robin says that he "has a father," he means "father" figuratively. Batman was the single strongest figure in Robin's life, so it is he who is "like a father" to Robin. For what ultimately befalls Robin see "Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker" (It is also possible that this Robin is a completely different Robin who took on the role of the hero after the events of this movie) Hope this clears it up a bit. As for Slade, we have to go to the comics a bit: Mr Slade is also known as DeathStroke: The Terminator Slade, a.k.a. Deathstroke the Terminator, made numerous appearences in the Titans comic and was their main villain through much of the 1980's. (Which is why the Titans can't easily defeat him) He later turned hero and helped Superman defeat Braniac during "Panic in the Sky." Robin, Beast Boy, Cyborg, Starfire, & Raven were members of the 1980's version of the Teen Titans. However, the Robin back then was Dick Grayson, (who we established is now Nightwing) Very recenty, DC Comics started a Teen Titans series were Raven, Cyborg, Beast Boy, & Starfire are mentors to new members which include Robin [Tim Drake], Superboy, Impulse, & Wonder Girl. Besides, Slade is voiced by the cooler than you Ron Pearlman, (Vincent the Beast/Hellboy)
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Post by Peppermint on Dec 20, 2003 13:09:23 GMT -5
*blink*
*blink*
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Post by Amphagorey on Dec 20, 2003 13:57:49 GMT -5
Wow. That was..............infomative. Wow.
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Post by Jm on Dec 20, 2003 15:09:11 GMT -5
i think slade is bruce wayne aka batman i think he's testing robin
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Post by Amphagorey on Dec 20, 2003 19:13:27 GMT -5
Maybe............But why would he do that? And, Slade commits crimes, which is very un-batman like. Didn't Robins parents die? Myabe Slade is his "real" father or something. Hey, is Raven human?
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Post by Kobolos on Dec 21, 2003 8:35:53 GMT -5
i think slade is bruce wayne aka batman i think he's testing robin Maybe............But why would he do that? And, Slade commits crimes, which is very un-batman like. Didn't Robins parents die? Myabe Slade is his "real" father or something. Hey, is Raven human? Absolutely, Batman would never waste the resources or do the nefarious things that Slade has done thus far. Think of it this way: As he has on the costume, Robin has passed his trials with Bruce. He has nothing else to prove. (Not to mention I already told you who Slade is and Two-Face killed Robin's dad. ) On to Raven, my favorite subject. In the episode "switched" You learn the origin of one of Ravens magical words, Azarath, which is where she was born. (thus making her Azarathian?) As for her origins....how do I put this delicately... If you saw the Episode "Nevermore" , The red creature whom Raven claims is her father is, in fact, a demon from the Titans comics books called Trigon the Terrible, who in the comics originally raped a woman who gave birth to Raven. In the comics, Raven originally brought the Teen Titans together so they could fight Trigon. It still remains to be seen whether or not Raven's full history will remain true to the comics, but given the children-oriented theme of the show, I *doubt* it. So she's half human until the show cleans it up for the kids. For those keeping track: Blue cloaked Raven: normal Pink cloaked Raven: happiness Grey cloaked Raven: sorrow Green cloaked Raven: courage Orange cloaked Raven: grossness White cloaked Raven: all but anger Red cloaked Raven: anger / evil BTW, the Puffy AmiYumi album ain't so bad.
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Post by Amphagorey on Dec 21, 2003 12:54:47 GMT -5
Ah gee, thats swell. Being the child of a rapist. Geee............. Um, alright. What about Beast Boy, and Cyborg. Where from they come?
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Post by Kobolos on Dec 22, 2003 8:35:11 GMT -5
Ah gee, thats swell. Being the child of a rapist. Geee............. Um, alright. What about Beast Boy, and Cyborg. Where from they come? They come from Toys R Us! I kid. Since none of the following has came out on the show, take it with a grain of salt, this is the comics version, and like Robin/Raven, they may change stuff around: Beast Boy, AKA Garfield Logan first appeared in Doom Patrol #1 (way back in 1965), in Doom Patrol #100, he revealed his origin: His father, Mark Logan, was a biological researcher who took his family to Africa to perfect his experiments on devolution. Just as Logan made the breakthrough, he learned from his wife Marie that their son, only a few years old at the time, was dying of Sakutia, a jungle fever. Only one animal can survive Sakutia, the green monkey of West Africa. To save his son, Mark Logan subjected Gar to the devolution ray and turned him into a green monkey. After 24 hours had passed and the danger period was over, Gar Logan was restored to human form--but his skin was still green. Later, he saw his mother menaced by a Black Mamba, the deadliest snake in Africa. Instinctively, Gar Logan activated a newly- gained power within his body, changing himself into a mongoose with a green head, fighting the snake, and killing it. Then he returned to normal form again. Dr. Logan swore Gar to secrecy about his shape-changing abilities. He also gave him a key in a metal capsule on a chain about his neck, told him it contained the secret of reverse evolution, and charged him to keep it with him at all times and not to crack its secrets till his 21st birthday. Later that year, during the rainy season in West Africa, both of Gar's parents were killed when their escape boat plunged over a waterfall. Gar saved himself by changing to bird form. Vic Stone, the Cyborg Seriously, I think you'll learn more about Cyborg on 1/31/04. The episode is "only Human" and it goes more into his story when he was a fully human athelete. But to tide you over (his first appearance was DC Comics Presents #26 October 1980) The rift between Victor Stone and his scientist father was widened one afternoon when he stopped by his parents' lab at S.T.A.R., only to see a blob-like creature enveloping his mother. Vic's father was able to hit the recall button, sending the creature back through the dimensional gateway, but his mother was dead, and Victor himself had been fatally injured as the creature dissolved half of his body. Silias Stone, determined he would not lose his son as well as his wife, adapted an experimental cybernetic military suit to replace what the creature had destroyed. When Vic finally awoke, he was horrified at the man/machine he had become, furious at his father for making him into it. When he could finally leave the lab, he encountered only fear and hate, and so withdrew as much as he could. Vic finally found a home when Raven appeared, inviting him to join the new Teen Titans. They accepted what he was and what he could do as a cyborg, and they saw the man behind the prosthetics. They - Raven especially - even helped him reconcile with his father before he died of radiation poisoning. The Titans (and Changeling in particular) were Vic's first real friends, and his most lasting ones. To round it all out, here is more info on Raven's Origin: A lost young woman named Arella, sought out the occult and arcane. Offering herself up as the bride of Satan, she allowed herself to be taken by the man who appeared during the ritual, and only afterward did he reveal his true, demonic appearance. Horrified at what she had done, what had happened to her, and fearful of the demon's child she carried, she was on the brink of suicide when she was found and taken to Azarath, a dimension to which a community of pacifists had fled from Earth to live in peace. And so Raven, daughter of human and demon, was raised by Azar and her followers, taught pacifism, taught to control her demon heritage. She learned to heal by absorbing others' pain, and she learned to project her soul out of her body for short periods of time. And she learned to suppress her emotions, for any strong feelings could awaken the evil within her. Starfire: Princess Koriand'r of the planet Tamaran was given up to slavery in order to keep her world free. In an experiment at the hands of the Psions, she gained the ability to absorb energy and project it in destructive "starbolts." Escaping captivity, she found herself on Earth, where she used these powers, her natural flight ability, and her childhood warrior training as a member of the New Teen Titans.
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Post by Kobolos on Jan 15, 2004 10:24:31 GMT -5
follow up:
If anyone saw the show last week....Starfire goes 20 years into the future and meets...Robin who has become Nightwing.
This show's Robin seems to be Dick Grayson. Meaning this is literally Year 1 Titans.
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Post by CountOlaf on Jan 15, 2004 21:02:45 GMT -5
In the comic book teen titans star fire is CREEPY. After I read a PM that was just sent to me i'll give some history
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Post by CountOlaf on Jan 15, 2004 21:15:16 GMT -5
Grab a drink. This is my longest ever post.
Unlike the other D.C. animated series, Justice League, Batman: The Animated Series, Superman: The Animated Series, and Batman Beyond, this show is drawn in a more anime influenced style.
Mr Slade is also known as DeathStroke:The Terminator. In the comics he made only one appearance Slade, a.k.a. Deathstroke the Terminator, made numerous appearences in the Titans comic and was their main villainn through much of the 1980's. He later turned hero and helped Superman defeat Braniacduring "Panic in the Sky."
Robin, Beast Boy, Cyborg, Starfire, & Raven were members of the 1980's version of the Teen Titans. However, the Robin back then was Dick Grayson, now known as Nightwing.
Very recenty, DC Comics started a Teen Titans series were Raven, Cyborg, Beast Boy, & Starfire are mentors to new members which include Robin [Tim Drake], Superboy, Impulse, & Wonder Girl First aired on Kids' WB! November 1, 2003
Mammoth, Gizmo, and Jinx are all members of the Fearsome Five, a villainous group that plagued the Titans from time to time. They appeared in the New Teen Titans [the first comic series] issues #3 and #7. Jinx joined later in Tales of the Teen Titans #56-58.
The H.I.V.E. stands for the Heirarchy of International Vengence and Extermination. Also, the H.I.V.E. was a group for criminal scientists. The second incarnation had a different Headmistress. Vestiges of the H.I.V.E remained and some of the same scientist formerly involved with the H.I.V.E. became members of The Wildebeest Society.
Starfire's real name is Koriand'r, and Blackfire's is Komand'r. Blackfire is an enemy in the comic book tales of the Teen Titans. From what I've heard in the comics, Starfire's entire family is dead.
Plasmus as shown here bears a marked similarity to Clayface, a Batman villain first seen in the Batman animated episode Feat of Clay. In the comics Plasmus has an acid touch and dissolves anything he touches into protoplasm.
Scenes of the Titans' initial battle with Plasmus were used to promote the show during a Kids WB sneak preview months earlier.
Cinderblock never appeared in the comics, he was created for the series.
In the "New Teen Titans" Comics, Plasmus is a member of "The Brotherhood of Evil [the new part]." Original members of the first generation are General Zahl Immortus, Madame Rouge, The Brain & Monsieur Mallah, and Garguax. The new Brotherhood of Evil members (now called "The Society of Sin") beside Plasmus are Houngan, Phobia, Warp, and Trinity.
In the comics the Mad Mod was a 60's villain who took on the Titans (Teen Titans #7 - 1967). He later reformed and became a fashion designer and ally of the Titans (Titans #2, second series, 1996).
Titans fight Robin, it's on top of a Wayne Enterprises building, owned by none other than Bruce Wayne/Batman
In the comics, Warp (aka Emil LaSalle) is a member of the Brotherhood of Evil (like Plasmus, from last season), although there his power is natural (he can only create warps in space) and he's a modern-day bad guy, rather then a villain from the future. The two bald shades-wearing punks throwing stuff at future-Beast Boy are a homage to the Mutants, a recurring street gang in Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns, which is also set in a dark gloomy future. In the comics and the preceding WB animated series, the original Robin (Dick Grayson) led the Titans and became Nightwing. Tim Drake, who became the "new" Robin in Batman: Animated and is presumably Robin here, hasn't donned that outfit yet, and his reaction here seems a little vague as to whether he's heard of Nightwing before. (Presumably the Titans' Robin is Tim Drake, although in the Titans series they haven't identified him by name, and in the comics it's Grayson and Starfire who are involved.)
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Post by CountOlaf on Jan 15, 2004 21:23:18 GMT -5
In the comics, Killer Moth was a third rate crook who was taken down by Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) in her first gig. Recently, a literal deal with the devil has turned Killer Moth into Charaxes, a monstrous creature that has it in for Robin In the comics, Speedy is Roy Harper, teen sidekick to Green Arrow, who joins the Justice League in it's third season. Along with Robin, Aqualad and Kid Flash, he's an original Titan. The new teen titans name is Terra, with mind blowing abilities able to crush mountains. STUFF ABOUT TRIDENT At one time, the three alter egos of Trident were operatives of the H.I.V.E., with Prof being a weapons design specialist. Eventually they decided to team up and strike out on their own. Each adopted the costume and code-name of Trident, and each was armed with a powerful trident. The weapon had three tines: the right shot fire, the left shot ice, and the middle released a blast of devastating force. Trident operated in New York City, each criminal taking turns at committing several large robberies. It was believed that Trident was only one person. Eventually, the Sammy Jaye Trident tried to cheat his two partners out of their share of loot. The other two killed Sammy, and his costumed body was discovered by the New Teen Titans. It was Starfire who eventually figured out that there was more than one Trident. Some time after the two surviving Tridents were imprisoned, Wildebeest sprang the Black Trident from jail, as well as Gizmo, the Puppeteer and the Disruptor. These villains were eventually recaptured by the Titans. Notes: SammyJaye was an average thug who seemed uneducated. Prof is intelligent, and his language reflects this. The black Trident is an ex-Golden Gloves boxer. Trident carries his super-powered weapon developed by the 'Prof.' The trident had three tines: the right shot fire, the left shot ice, and the middle released a blast of devastating force. New Teen Titans #33 [1983]: While Robin is casing Anthony Scarapelli's home with Adrian Chase, the other Titans puzzle over their encounters with a villain calling himself Trident; Starfire deduces that Trident is actually three different criminals who wear the same costume. First appearance of Trident. New Teen Titans (second series) #41-42 [1988]: Wildebeest recruits the Puppeteer, the Disruptor, Gizmo and Trident to attack the Titans. Cyborg Victor (Vic) Stone grew up surrounded by science. As the only son of research scientists Silas and Elinore Stone, Victor was pushed and trained to follow in his parents' footsteps. While experimenting on ways to boost human intelligence, they used Vic as a subject, which bestowed him with an IQ of 170. Silas and Elinore Stone's pursuit of science unfortunately blinded them to their son's need for a normal childhood. Young Vic got into trouble when he began hanging around with the wrong crowd, which included a youth named Ron Evers, who got Vic into trouble several times. Victor remained Ron's friend because he had no one else, his actions stimulated by his loneliness and lack of attention from his father
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Post by Kobolos on Jan 15, 2004 22:30:57 GMT -5
In the comic book teen titans star fire is CREEPY. After I read a PM that was just sent to me i'll give some history *thought he already gave some history*
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Post by CountOlaf on Jan 15, 2004 23:45:17 GMT -5
*thought he already gave some history* you did i just added some stuff i found out on an AMAZING site
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