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Post by trish on Jul 29, 2004 20:30:43 GMT -5
I'm going to order them. I have this book called "The Magical Worlds of Harry Potter" By David Colbert. Does anyone have that? I think I have that one. But it isn't really a theory book, is it? Unless I'm thinking of the wrong book. |
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Post by Pester, Rumormonger on Jul 29, 2004 22:13:56 GMT -5
What were the points that supported the James=Lupin theory?
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Post by trish on Jul 29, 2004 22:34:49 GMT -5
Quite a lot of them, unfortunately I don't know where my Waters books are right now so you'll have to make do with a short list from my memory-
1) In PoA, Lupin always acts so fatherly towards Harry, and he reacts strongly when Harry tells him about hearing James and Lily's voices.
2) In PoA, Lupin sometimes seems to read Harry's mind and to know what he is thinking. So this could mean that he knows Harry very well, kind of like a father would.
3) In chapter 17 of the PoA Lupin says "I certainly don't want Harry dead..." and then an odd shiver passed over his face. Why would he shiver? We know that he was good friends with the Potters and would want no harm to come to Harry, but why would Harry's wellbeing affect him so personally?
4) In chapter 5 of PoA: Lupin knows Harry's name and he doesn't seem to react to Harry like most other people have, meaning that he doesn't stare at his scar or mention the resemblance to his dad, or his mothers eyes.
5) Lupin's Boggart turns into a silvery orb, which could be a moon, but it could also be a crystal ball, and he might fear it because it might show that he really is James instead of Lupin.
6) They mention a 'Switching Spell' in all of the books, but they do not define exactly what a switching spell is. Lupin and James could have used this to switch.
A common hypothesis is that Lily did it, with her wand that is 'good for charm work' and that she used a Switching Spell.
Anyway, that's all I have right now.
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Post by Pester, Rumormonger on Jul 30, 2004 1:45:17 GMT -5
Switching spells are tranfigurations, not charms, though.
And it seems really difficult for a 4th year student to do. I don't know, that all seems pretty weak.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jul 30, 2004 20:08:36 GMT -5
Okay, we don't know if Snape is ALWAYS up at night. One time he was up because he was giving Quirell a talking to. In GOF he was only awake because someone broke into his office. Plus, no one ever mentioned snape not eating at the various hogwarts feasts harry attended with him. Also, in POA vampires are described as having waxy white skin, Snape has sallow skin.
As for the Lupin theory, Lupin would react fatherly to Harry because he feels like a father figure toward Harry since Harry pretty much has none. He could be reading Harry's mind because he is skilled with legilimency. An odd shiver would pass over his face at the thought of Harry being dead because he would feel it one of his utmost duties to protect his dead friend's child and would not want to fail that duty. Lupin would know Harry's name because he probably saw him as a baby when Lily and James were still alive and wouldn't react to him like other people because of that. Sirius didn't react to Harry like everyone else did either. And like Pester said, a switching spell would be transfiguration, not charmwork.
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Post by trish on Jul 31, 2004 0:00:42 GMT -5
Yeah, but they did manage to transform into Anamagi as well, and you wouldn't expect that of students that age. Who said they did it when they were forth years, anyway?
I'm not really arguing this point, you just asked for evidence so, yeah...
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Jul 31, 2004 20:46:24 GMT -5
I didn't say they were fourth years.... And if u don't wish to argue, don't. Just let the debate mode me contradict your evidence and walk all over you. ;D
(Don't you guys hate it when I get into debate mode?)
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Post by trish on Jul 31, 2004 23:16:14 GMT -5
I was talking to Pester, she said it would be difficult for a forth year to do all that stuff. ^^^^^
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Post by Pester, Rumormonger on Aug 2, 2004 1:31:50 GMT -5
Well, in book 4 McGonagall gave Harry and Ron a bunch of extra homework because they couldn't get switching spells down, right?
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Post by trish on Aug 2, 2004 2:19:33 GMT -5
Did she? I remember Neville accidentally switched his ears for cacti in the fourth book too.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Aug 2, 2004 20:13:06 GMT -5
And Mcgonogall told Neville not to show Durmstrang that he couldn't perform a simple switching spell. (I still don't think James and Lupin ever switched bodies)
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Post by trish on Aug 2, 2004 22:37:59 GMT -5
You non-believer you. I bet you don't even believe in aliens.
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Aug 3, 2004 20:26:28 GMT -5
Of course I believe in aliens. Switching bodies, no, but any extraordinary outer space things- YES!
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Post by trish on Aug 3, 2004 21:27:02 GMT -5
*snort*
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Post by Jacques the Environmentalist on Aug 4, 2004 14:29:30 GMT -5
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I do believe some of her theories, such as the st. mungo's bribe one, the homorphus charm being able to cure werewolves, and her rules of constant vigilance.
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