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Post by gary on Jul 6, 2004 22:15:13 GMT -5
Really?
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Post by royalvioletta on Jul 6, 2004 23:00:14 GMT -5
Hmm...Padma & Parvati were supposed to be East Indian, I think. Those names are very East Indian...not to mention the last name Patil...
I think it's very hard for authors to genuinely put people of different ethnic groups into their stories without readers mistakening it for tokenism. How many black people are needed for it to not be tokenism? There's Angelina, there's Lee Jordan, there's Dean...and probably more. The fact is, in Britain, the population is predominantly white anglo-saxons. I think Rowling's survey of ethnicities is fairly accurate (and wonderfully including! You don't see that with too many authors)...not tokenism at all.
On a slightly unrelated topic, my sister said she always imagined Sirius Black to look Native American. That wouldn't really work, as he's supposed to be British, but I guess it's all in the interpretation of the reader.
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Post by gary on Jul 6, 2004 23:14:30 GMT -5
Yup, I imagined him Japanese
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Post by trish on Jul 7, 2004 3:08:31 GMT -5
Hmm...Padma & Parvati were supposed to be East Indian, I think. Those names are very East Indian...not to mention the last name Patil... I think it's very hard for authors to genuinely put people of different ethnic groups into their stories without readers mistakening it for tokenism. How many black people are needed for it to not be tokenism? There's Angelina, there's Lee Jordan, there's Dean...and probably more. The fact is, in Britain, the population is predominantly white anglo-saxons. I think Rowling's survey of ethnicities is fairly accurate (and wonderfully including! You don't see that with too many authors)...not tokenism at all. On a slightly unrelated topic, my sister said she always imagined Sirius Black to look Native American. That wouldn't really work, as he's supposed to be British, but I guess it's all in the interpretation of the reader. True. When I read the books, I pictured Dean white. Angelina was definitely white. A blonde. Am I just prejudiced for thinking everyone was white? |
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Post by Luigi on Jul 7, 2004 12:38:37 GMT -5
Well, I don't picture anyone in ASOUE as white.
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Post by gary on Jul 7, 2004 16:53:01 GMT -5
Well, I think every race pictures people in the books as their race.
I did, then I see the movies and change it to the way it is there... Like, now I see Dean as black, Angelina as Black, and I always knew Lee was black, so I didn't have to change that.
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Post by trish on Jul 11, 2004 2:52:14 GMT -5
Well, I don't picture anyone in ASOUE as white. Really? Even after you saw the picture on the cover? Like Taylor, I sorta changed my views after the movies, even though Dean will always be white to me. I always knew Lee was black as well. |
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Post by Luigi on Jul 11, 2004 12:40:59 GMT -5
Really? Even after you saw the picture on the cover? Like Taylor, I sorta changed my views after the movies, even though Dean will always be white to me. I always knew Lee was black as well. J: Wait, I said don't? I meant do. I mean "I don't picture anyone in ASOUE as black." |
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Post by ineedyourhelp on Jul 11, 2004 12:43:06 GMT -5
I always see everyone as white. Angelina will always be white to me. The only perseon I pictured black was Dean.
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Post by trish on Jul 13, 2004 4:06:22 GMT -5
J: Wait, I said don't? I meant do. I mean "I don't picture anyone in ASOUE as black." Ah, yes, I see. A simple word can screw up sentences, I hate it.  Goodness, I've never thought about it, but I also picture absolutely everyone in ASoUE white. Ya think black people picture everyone black? |
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Post by gary on Jul 13, 2004 11:12:40 GMT -5
Yes, most definitely, Trishy!!
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