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Post by xocharmed3xo on Jul 2, 2005 21:22:40 GMT -5
the vertible french diners address is 141 dark avenue or something, the same street as 667 dark avenue. it is in the unauthorized autobiography and the series of unfortunate event books, well some of them. it also has like a secret passageway to the bauldelaire mansion from like cafe samonella or something.
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Post by RockSunner on Jul 2, 2005 22:13:08 GMT -5
In my fanfiction "The Intractable Interrogator" I created a passage from the Cafe Salmonella to 667 Dark Avenue, but I don't believe there is direct evidenc for this passage in the books.
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Post by Dante on Jul 3, 2005 3:25:48 GMT -5
*sigh* Discuss the buildings on Dark Avenue here, including the Veritable French Diner at 141, and the apartment building at 667. Also discuss possible passageways and headquarters on Dark Avenue (we are told that there is one, and that the number of its address opens the safe with Lemony's disguise kit in it). Note that Café Salmonella is not on Dark Avenue, it is in the Fish District.
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Post by Antenora on Jul 3, 2005 6:26:46 GMT -5
I have a vague theory that all of the passageways are connected. The one connecting 667 to the Baudelaire Mansion might have a branch someplace connecting it to another passage, say the one from Monty's house to the Quagmire mansion. If the diner is a headquarters, there's probably a passageway to it as well.
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Post by Dante on Jul 3, 2005 6:31:39 GMT -5
According to Lemony's map, there is a network of hidden passages under the city. That terminology would imply that they are all interconnected. However, the Baudelaires' and Quigley's journeys through various passages don't seem to indicate that there are any other branches - they only seem to link two locations.
Edit: Oh, and I guess this belongs in Perilous Places.
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Post by xocharmed3xo on Jul 3, 2005 10:34:56 GMT -5
r u and like anetora or something going out or the same person cuz u comment on all the same stuff and seem to be on all day. interested in whatever i'm posting or doing. no one else. there is other non important thread or as u's say not threadyworthy. ppl who have like 5 words written in the whole thing. is this all u do all day?
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Post by Dante on Jul 3, 2005 10:38:17 GMT -5
Err... That's quite off-topic. But we just like to discuss aSoUE, and get the most out of a topic.
Now, back on-topic, everyone.
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Post by RockSunner on Jul 3, 2005 12:14:00 GMT -5
So, is the safe combination 141 (the Veritable French Diner is or was the headquarters) or is it 667 (the headquarters is in Jerome's building)?
I believe the evidence points to 667. Here is my theory:
1) There is a floor above the penthouse. (LSUA p. 201).
2) The shaft of the ersatz elevator probably extended to that floor.
3) V.F.D. headquarters are sometimes reached by climbing. (LSUA p. 48).
4) There could well have been some way of climbing the ersatz shaft, such as a rope ladder.
5) Members, such as the Baudelaire parents, could reach the meeting place by the secret passage from their home to below 667 Dark Avenue, then up the shaft.
6) There may well be concealed side passages that the Baudelaire children missed, leading to other homes or meeting places.
7) Jerome was persuaded by Jacques to buy the the 667 penthouse and never sell it.
8) Jerome never lived there until after he married Esme.
9) Having an empty penthouse between the meeting level and the rest of the building would conceal any noise the meeting might make.
10) Esme's only interest in Jerome was for access to 667 and the passages (LSUA p. 120).
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Post by Dante on Jul 3, 2005 12:34:55 GMT -5
I agree with you, RockSunner (with the possible exception of there being side passages which the Baudelaires might have missed - seems a bit cheap, to me) - but if I may make one addition to the theory? i think that there was once an actual elevator in the ersatz elevator shaft. That would be much more convenient (and less suspicious if anyone else were to randomly wander up there and open the wrong set of elevator doors. There'd probably be a menu showing that it didn't go to the regular floors, so anybody who came across it by accident would probably just see that and then take the other elevator).
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Post by SF on Jul 4, 2005 16:19:34 GMT -5
I agree that there probably was at one time an elevator in the ersatz eleveator shaft (I remember Esme saying something about paying to have the elevator removed, but she says the reason was because elevators were "out" but a plus would probably be to get to the secret passage way.) Also I don't think that the passages interconnect, I think Klaus, Violet, Sunny, and Quigley are too observent to of missed them (unless they too were disguised in some way.)
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Post by xocharmed3xo on Jul 4, 2005 21:03:55 GMT -5
they could interconnect or not. sometimes they realize things later after they happened. they still realize it, but sometimes its too late
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Post by Hooky on Jul 9, 2005 19:29:14 GMT -5
Maybe they interconnect, only the walls of the passage contain secret doors.
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Post by s on Jul 16, 2005 14:15:35 GMT -5
I think all the passages are somehow connected. I think that all the mansions (or penthouses...) of VFD members have tunnels leading to other VFD homes,or possibly to one place (perhaps the apartment above penthouse, as was previously suggested) so that in times of emergency, the whole organization could quickly assemble in one place. Kind of like...an anthill. or a rabbit hole. Lots of passages going everywhere so people can efficiently reach their destination of choice.
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Post by darkangel667 on Jul 27, 2005 22:05:27 GMT -5
I think at least some of them would have to be connected. But, and this is what confuses me, Count Olaf had to take the Quagmires the same route the Baudelaire's did right? There doesn't seem to be any other tunnels leading anywhere. I mean I don't know about this but it seems to me that Count Olaf would have had to take them a different route because of the rubble on top of the passage seemed to be collected over a long period of time (more than a few hours.)
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Post by Dante on Jul 28, 2005 4:08:58 GMT -5
I mean I don't know about this but it seems to me that Count Olaf would have had to take them a different route because of the rubble on top of the passage seemed to be collected over a long period of time (more than a few hours.) I claim writer's license on that one. It may not make sense, but it's more sinister and mysterious.
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