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May 20, 2004 13:22:14 GMT -5
Post by kjlsnicket29 on May 20, 2004 13:22:14 GMT -5
You're right. He doesn't just put things right in front of our faces, he lets you figure it out.
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Jun 14, 2004 18:03:28 GMT -5
Post by MsMourning on Jun 14, 2004 18:03:28 GMT -5
I think it's the Quagmires. The hair color isn't going to be the same because it's not an actual picture. They look younger than when TAA took place. My cousin had blonde hair when he was younger and now it's dark brown. So it's possible. In my point of view anyway.
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Jun 26, 2004 21:11:14 GMT -5
Post by Alchemist on Jun 26, 2004 21:11:14 GMT -5
Maybe Brett Helquist just drew the Quagmires as dark- haired because a white area around a person's head would look weird.
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Jun 26, 2004 21:25:48 GMT -5
Post by Antenora on Jun 26, 2004 21:25:48 GMT -5
Perhaps he changed their hair color to protect the innocent, namely them. In fact, that's possibly the reason Lemony describes characters so vaguely.
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Jun 27, 2004 15:27:56 GMT -5
Post by Luna on Jun 27, 2004 15:27:56 GMT -5
my friend bleached her hair and the next day dyed is vbrown again...
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Jul 28, 2004 12:37:16 GMT -5
Post by lilmermaid987 on Jul 28, 2004 12:37:16 GMT -5
Usually your hair changes color when you're a very newborn baby. By the time you are the age of the kids in that photo, your hair has pretty much decided that it's done changing.
I don't think that it's a disguise because the Quagmires aren't actual members of the V.F.D., so why would they be disguised?
Besides, look at the boy on the right, the one that was sent to Prufock, he's not only shorter than the other boy and the girl, but his face is rounder and he just looks younger. Nowhere is it mentioned that one of the Quagmire triplets looks younger.
Not to mention, that not JUST the Quagmires were being sent to Prufrock. As I remember, there were quite a few other kids there as well.
Look at the boy on the left and the girl, they look about the same age...Something like twins? Oh, and weren't Jaques and his sister...TWINS? And then they had a YOUNGER brother? And we know that K (who we have reason to believe is the Snicket Sister) worked at the school. Sometimes kids who are sent away to a school very young have an easier time getting a job there.
It just fits better to call these kids the Snicket children rather than the Quagmires.
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Jul 28, 2004 16:53:30 GMT -5
Post by Antenora on Jul 28, 2004 16:53:30 GMT -5
However, there's a bracket over the "twins" that says "sent to Prufrock Prep School". Do we have any evidence that Jacques and K went to Prufrock when they were young? It would sort of make sense since K was a teacher there at one point.
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Jul 28, 2004 20:30:45 GMT -5
Post by lilmermaid987 on Jul 28, 2004 20:30:45 GMT -5
There's not a bracket over the "twins". There's a bracket over Lemony and K. Is there any evidence that Lemony once attended? And why didn't Jaques go?
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Jul 30, 2004 15:34:39 GMT -5
Post by Amber on Jul 30, 2004 15:34:39 GMT -5
maybe the same happened to the snicket kids as the quags, it was said their house/mansion was burnt down a long time ago so maybe jaques was thought to be dead in the fire, their parents might have died and that was why the two "surivors" were sent to prufock prep. just a thought!
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Sept 7, 2004 13:06:56 GMT -5
Post by notebooks222 on Sept 7, 2004 13:06:56 GMT -5
It makes most sense to be the Snickets. The Quags are too obvious. Lemony wouldn't do that. J and K probably went to prufrock. Lemony (the young one) was always the oddball so he probably ran away or something. Or maybe he was too young for school at that time. Also hair color always changes. I had blonde about age 1-10 but it's slowly getting darker. now it's sorta brownish. (13) by the time he's 30 his hair probably went black
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Sept 7, 2004 13:23:31 GMT -5
Post by Dante on Sept 7, 2004 13:23:31 GMT -5
But it was the young one and the girl who went to Prufrock, and when the Snickets were recruited then their house was intact. But I don't believe that it is the Snickets. As to who they are really, allow me to quote myself from my Theories Galore thread in the Crisis Concludes: The Survivor in the Snowman & the Three Orphans Many people think that the survivor in the snowman (U.A., Chapter 4) was Quigley Quagmire, presumably based on the fact that there’s a photograph of two boys and a girl in the Sebald section (specifically page 70), and one boy and one girl are labelled “Sent to Prufrock Preparatory School” and the other boy is labelled “?”. These are assumed to be the Quagmires, and that’s a fair assumption to make. But, as others have pointed out, they don’t have black hair, the girl looks quite different to the boys, and one of the boys looks shorter, younger than the others. These are not the Quagmires. On a tangential note, even though “…could not possibly have been at the same time.” (U.A., page 204-205) gives us some leniency with timelines (some believe the quote is an acknowledgement of chronological inconsistencies in the book) , the blatant twisting of time that would be required for Quigley to have been on the set of “Zombies in the Snow” is too much unless we accept all-out time travel – I won’t explain the difficulties here, they’re quite obvious. Besides, it’s my belief that “…could not possibly have been at the same time.” refers to difficulties with the fifteen-year gap and the Prospero which some have pointed out, and which I am too tired to repeat. Besides, Quigley would have mentioned it. The survivor in the snowman was probably the survivor of the Baudelaire fire, otherwise that section of the secret message would not have been relevant to Monty, who the message was aimed at. To be honest, this clashes fiercely with my own opinion of who the survivor of the Baudelaire fire is, although I won’t put forward that theory just yet. Back onto the main message – some say that the picture is of the Snickets. The ages fit, I suppose – Jacques and K. are twins, with Lemony being the youngest – but what of the question mark, and the Prufrock Prep. reference? That doesn’t fit at all. I think that the picture is of a third set of orphans who have not yet been introduced. This is backed up in Nero’s letter (U.A., page 129-131) to Mr. and Mrs. Spats (another two people who we know far too little about) in which he claims that Ms. K. drags off two “replacement orphans” for the Baudelaires by their ankles. “Like all orphans, the two kidnapped brats were so stupid that they didn’t even look scared as Ms. K. carried them away. Their faces were very serious, as if they were embarking on an important mission of some kind.” This is clear V.F.D. recruitment, which gives a clue as to why they had their picture in the Sebald section. Maybe the Baudelaires will meet them or the missing boy later – they need more friends than just the Quagmires.
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Sept 10, 2004 19:58:03 GMT -5
Post by PJ on Sept 10, 2004 19:58:03 GMT -5
I second that, I reckon they are another set of triplets, unrelated to the Quagmires and the Baudelaires. As that quote said, Nero sais that 2 kids who where the baudelaire replacements where taken by misses K..... HMMMMMMMM
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