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Post by PJ on Jun 24, 2004 7:26:11 GMT -5
This thread probably already exists, but I searched for VFD meetings and I didnt find anything I will now make a summary of the VFD meeting in LSUA of all the people who the Letters might be: J:Jaques, Jerome, Justice Strauss( Jerome seems unlikely)( we know Jaques is VFD)( also, J askes for Brandy, so he is probably old enough to drink it) L:Lemony( thats all I can think of!)one of the L's seems to be young, cos someone says to him, as you get older, so hes probably a child at the moment( also, R says shes 9 and beforehand R tells Lemony that they were both the same age as they were brought to VFD) M: Montgomery, i cant think of anyone else, but it says in LSUA that Monty most likely isnt VFD R:Mrs Remona from TAA(hmmm) R:see above M: see above L:see above K: Lemony's sister is known as K D:Duncan Quigley, Daniel Handler( M asks him if he is a representative of L(lemony) and he says not at the moment, and in the intro, Daniel says he is the representative of Lemony S:Sir? na, it aint his first name well thats em all, see if u can spot an extra person I missed
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Post by PJ on Jun 24, 2004 7:30:13 GMT -5
Also, the neophytes R L K B J and E are mentioned, aswell as O and E who r evil infiltrators here is a list of ppl they MIGHT be Neophytes: R: Mrs Remona from TAA, mebe L:Lemony K:Lemony's sister B: Beatrice J:Josephine, Jerome, Jaques E:Esmé( nah) Infiltrators: O:I think most of us agree that this is Olaf, the only other "O" person could be Olivia E:I think we all agree that this is Esmé Also, when O pulls something out of a box, I recon its a match, because their all scared of fire
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Post by Alchemist on Jun 25, 2004 22:21:29 GMT -5
I was wondering about the brandy. Maybe it's not Jacques but another J.
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Post by Packerfan on Jun 28, 2004 16:37:31 GMT -5
Maybe they don't care about drinking age
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Post by Mr. Flocuna on Jun 29, 2004 13:55:37 GMT -5
Maybe It's Justice?
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Post by Sapphire on Jun 29, 2004 14:38:29 GMT -5
But Justice isn't her first name. It's her title.
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Post by Ennui on Jun 29, 2004 15:46:58 GMT -5
Who else would want brandy but a certain disguised sea-captain we all (sort of) know and love?
Sailors are traditionally alcoholics. Step forward Julio...
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Post by Antenora on Jun 29, 2004 16:23:59 GMT -5
It seemed that there were two J's at the meeting, and one may well have been Julio. Perhaps we'll meet the real Julio Sham, the person who sent a letter to Lemony about the Prospero.
There's a theory floating in the cyberether stating that nine-year-old R is Ramona from Beverly Cleary's Ramona Quimby books. Remember the man in the mismatched outfit who asks people if they've been good to their mothers? He's a VFDer, and he had a coded message for Ramona in one of the Ramona books. I'm not sure if I believe this, but it seems vaguely plausible.
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Post by Ennui on Jun 30, 2004 1:33:45 GMT -5
The other R (and probably the Vice-Chancellor) is the Duchess of Winnipeg.
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Post by GRammaret on Jul 3, 2004 0:19:41 GMT -5
I'm sure that you have all wondered what VFD really does. Well, I can't find a place to post my theroy so I'm going to post it here:
I was reading the book Fahrenheit 451. And the firemen don't stop fires, they set them. Books are banned in the future. So the firemen have to find houses hiding books and burn the houses down. Sometimes the owners are so attached to their books that they die with them.
I was thinking that VFD really does stand for Volunteer Fire Department. And they go and burn down houses with books in them. Think about it. Every building that was burned down in the series so far, had a huge library. And Snicket always seems to comment on the libraries.
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Post by lilmermaid987 on Jul 28, 2004 13:31:10 GMT -5
^ Wow...How many of the books have you read?
I HATE this part of the TUA because it bugs me that we only have the first letter and there are all these multiples and tricks...Grr Arg...
I was jotting down some notes.
I think the first M, the big wig one, is probably not Monty. I think Monty could be the second, less in power M. My only real support for this is that Monty doesn't know the Sebald code, so why would you want a leader that can't receive messages?
One of the J's, I think we can all agree Jaques. The other one though can't be Jerome because he's clearly not in V.F.D. as stated by the letter from Jaques to him before the wedding. It could be Justice, but that's not a real first name, just a disguised name that somebody was using. (I think she's somebody in disguise because of the way her attire was part of the V.F.D. disguise kit) Julio is a possibility, especially because we are going into a sea related story in TGG, maybe we can see him and put him on the list as the other J. I'm assuming that since they make Lemony out to be young, Jaques is as well so he's probably not drinking brandy.
Speaking of the brandy, why is that phrase even in there? It's totally out of the blue and having nothing to do with the conversation. Is it a code-phrase like, "The world is quiet here?" Why why why?
The R's...The fact that it could be Ramona, or somebody named Ramona is a good idea. We can assume that one of them is/was the Duchess of Winnipeg. There's not many R people to go on.
K...Snicket sister according to the family tree. It just fits too well.
The D I'm guessing is Daniel Handler because we know he represents Lemony Snicket and the character D was asked if he was repping L who we are assuming is Lemony.
The S is also a tough one. There is speculation that it is Sally Sebald, Gustav's sister. That seems reasonable until proven otherwise...
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Post by Sora on Aug 1, 2004 1:47:46 GMT -5
I actually thought S was Sunny at first, seing as the person knew about sleep deprevation at Prufrock Prep, but you never know.
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Post by GRammaret on Aug 15, 2004 16:10:38 GMT -5
Can someone please tell me what they think about my theroy above? I really want to know what you guys think of it. Is it dumb or good or what??
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Post by Antenora on Aug 15, 2004 16:15:58 GMT -5
It's the evil half of VFD that goes about burning down houses, books, and people. The good side of VFD owns all those books and dark green mansions, and they're out to stop the other side.
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Post by Alchemist on Aug 15, 2004 23:16:52 GMT -5
I actually thought S was Sunny at first, seing as the person knew about sleep deprevation at Prufrock Prep, but you never know. It could have been Mr. Remora or Mrs. Bass. Their first names aren't mentioned in TAA.
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